Chipping a Saxon

[Philbahn]

Hi Steve Lewis

Did you buy a volume control to fit on yr Massoth decoder?

I meant to mention it before they are quite inexpensive and do allow easy volume control wthout having to alter the volume CVs I fitted one to Keith Ts Saxon and it protrudes into the cab via the hole where the switch used to be! To assist in turning it I adapted a panel pin and drilled a small hole thro the control knob to form a 'T' bar,

Keith will prob advise if it still works OK??

Regards The other Steve Lewis

No need with the Navi just go to CV200 and adjust to your level can be done on the track. But not when running

 

[KeithT]

Hi Steve Lewis

Did you buy a volume control to fit on yr Massoth decoder?

I meant to mention it before they are quite inexpensive and do allow easy volume control wthout having to alter the volume CVs I fitted one to Keith Ts Saxon and it protrudes into the cab via the hole where the switch used to be! To assist in turning it I adapted a panel pin and drilled a small hole thro the control knob to form a 'T' bar,

Keith will prob advise if it still works OK??

Regards The other Steve Lewis

It WORKS!
PARDON?

From a whisper to a roar.

 

[Nemo]

Moving on then. As Phil recommended I drilled a series of holes directly below where the speaker fits and also two smaller holes for the self tapping speaker screws. Word of caution here, when drilling small hole do not put your fingers underneath the frame to support it, Don't ask but it hurts...:timeout:

 

[Nemo]

The speaker in situ. The chip I just used one original hole and drilled a new hole for the other screw into the Lead/ metal, its fairly soft so a self tapper found its way in fairly easy

 

[Mez]

Moving on then. As Phil recommended I drilled a series of holes directly below where the speaker fits and also two smaller holes for the self tapping speaker screws. Word of caution here, when drilling small hole do not put your fingers underneath the frame to support it, Don't ask but it hurts...:timeout:

OUCH!

 

[Nemo]

Now comes the wiring bit. First of all just a simple solder the two wires onto the speaker and that plugs directly into the top of the chip. The power bogies were not as simple as the 4 wires from each one where all colour coded BLACK..:timeout: As pointed out by Steve Lewis (not me) I had to find out which two where the pick ups and which two where the motor supply. Quite simple for me, I took them to work and gave them my electrical engineer, who then marked up which one was which. He tested the pick ups via his meter and the motor direction by a 9v battery. The power bogies where then wired together and connected to the chip as per Massoth instructions

 

[Neil Robinson]

The speaker in situ. The chip I just used one original hole and drilled a new hole for the other screw into the Lead/ metal, its fairly soft so a self tapper found its way in fairly easy

Good choice of speaker.
I've been using the slightly larger FRS 7 in many of Casey Jones' locos for a few years now.

http://www.rapidonline.com/Electric...ers/6.5cm-Full-range-speaker/73509/kw/speaker < Link To http://www.rapidonline.co...eaker/73509/kw/speaker

http://uk.farnell.com/visaton/2018/speaker-frs-7-s-8-ohms/dp/1683900 < Link To http://uk.farnell.com/vis...-7-s-8-ohms/dp/1683900

 

[Nemo]

Good choice of speaker.
I've been using the slightly larger FRS 7 in many of Casey Jones' locos for a few years now.


The speaker came with the chip Neil, although Phil recommended this make of speaker as well.

STOP PRESS, I've just plucked up the courage and stuck it on me test track and everything WORKS, the sound is LOUD and good quality and both power bogies go the same way as well. Think me next step is to change some CVs for me lighting and smokey generator which on this loco are 5 volt

 

[Mez]

they are an impressive set up that combo.

 

[ntpntpntp]

A quick question if I may: from previous postings can I take it the volume knob is not mandatory with the XLS decoder? It doesn't need the connector pins bridging or anything like that, if no knob is used?

KentKeith asked me to check over a bunch of (believed dead) decoders a little while ago, including an XLS for which so far I've only tested that the motor drive works. If the volume knob is not required (I should check CV200 to set the volume?) then I only have to worry about plugging in a speaker to test the sound? Is there a "sound on/off" function key that also needs to be on?

I really must study the manual for the XLS (not used one myself yet).

Cheers

 

[Philbahn]

PEter think if you use an exteral volume switch CV 200 should be set to 255. Default 32 on & off should be F6

 

[stevelewis]

A quick question if I may: from previous postings can I take it the volume knob is not mandatory with the XLS decoder? It doesn't need the connector pins bridging or anything like that, if no knob is used?

KentKeith asked me to check over a bunch of (believed dead) decoders a little while ago, including an XLS for which so far I've only tested that the motor drive works. If the volume knob is not required (I should check CV200 to set the volume?) then I only have to worry about plugging in a speaker to test the sound? Is there a "sound on/off" function key that also needs to be on?

I really must study the manual for the XLS (not used one myself yet).

Cheers

Vol control knob not mandatory, but I find in practise it is more benficial to have one saves time if wanting to reduce vol quickly.,
Nothing has to be done if Vol control is NOT used.

Check CV200 to ensure that it is not set too low, cant put my hands on an instruction book at the mo but CV value of 64 rings a bell for FULL volume

From memory F1 may be the on / off function
Unless of course the functions have been altered in which case it may be worth doing a factory reset on the decoder, if the decoder is thought to be faulty then this is probaly the first action to take anyway!

 

[Nemo]

F6 on the Massoth system is sound on/off

The volume Cv200 is factory set at 32 but can be changed from 1 up to 63.
Sounds like I know what Im on about dunt it, I've just read the manual.

By the way 32 on the volume is loud, I can easily hear it upstairs and the locos in the conservatory so god knows what it would be like at 63.........

 

[mike]

most of mine are set to 7 steve..i find it nicer to lose the sound as the locos amble round the garden.. altering the volums a doddle on a navagature

 

[Zman]

Nearly got this thread mixed up!

 

[3Valve]

most of mine are set to 7 steve..i find it nicer to lose the sound as the locos amble round the garden.. altering the volums a doddle on a navagature

Mum.... Mike's flaunting his navigator at me again .

 

[Nemo]

Nearly got this thread mixed up!

 

[Philbahn]

F6 on the Massoth system is sound on/off

The volume Cv200 is factory set at 32 but can be changed from 1 up to 63.
Sounds like I know what Im on about dunt it, I've just read the manual.

By the way 32 on the volume is loud, I can easily hear it upstairs and the locos in the conservatory so god knows what it would be like at 63.........

Told you they were good Steve. Listen to your uncle Phil

 

[Neil Robinson]

Told you they were good Steve. Listen to your uncle Phil

Phil, he can't hear you for that darned sound system!

 

[Philbahn]

Told you they were good Steve. Listen to your uncle Phil

Phil, he can't hear you for that darned sound system!

Never thought about that Neil

Might be having discussions with the neighbours