How would you advise someone converting to digital?

idlemarvel

idlemarvel

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Yes, Massoth e-motion S decoder would work, it would probably be connected to the track power outlets on the LGB boards. There's a trick to programming them once installed, to isolate the power, as they share some of the same CVs as the LGB fitted decoders. You would need a speaker as well, and a volume control if you want to control the volume manually as well as with CV settings The speakers and volume control from Massoth come with the plugs attached to plug into the S decoder board.

If you're happy with generic motor sound, you could try the LGB diesel sound module 65006 which has a speaker and volume control included. The sound functionality is more of less the same as the S decoder. Again no soldering required.

HTH
 
Zerogee

Zerogee

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Morning all. I am out of hibernation and happily it seems to have refreshed my ability to understand the Massoth programming system, and the locos I acquired in the autumn are merrily running around on freight duties. (although i still need to try again with "Raimund" above, thanks to all for the advice there)

So my question today is relatively simple. I now have two diesels, the V52 (23510) and the Pressnitzbahn (28515) which shares the same bodywork as the V52 but has two motors. Both have LGB factory fitted decoders but no sound. How would you recommend to install sound in these two, in a Massoth- dominated system? E-motion S decoder?

Completely agree with Dave's answer above - a Massoth S would be the best way to go in my opinion. The LGB "black box" sound unit he also mentioned will fit and is very simple to connect, but it is more expensive than the S decoder, and doesn't have the specific sounds for the actual loco in question, just generic diesel sounds.
Using an S, you can fit a nice chunky speaker with a big magnet (I'd suggest a Visaton FRS5 or FRS7) that will give you great sound.

One thing in your post that I'm a bit confused about - it implies that your V52 only has one motor? Both the locos you mention should have two motors, with both bogies powered - if your V52 has one bogie without a motor then it's been removed somewhere in its life...!

Jon.
 
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RH Prague

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Thanks both. It's probably my mistake re the V52 and its motor(s), as it came without a box, and I looked it up in the German language reference book I bought last year (discussed in the releavnt thread). I think that it didn't mention two motors on the V52, but I've just looked up the instruction manual and it is referenced there. I'll check when I get home, but now I think of it, I am pretty sure it has pick ups on both bogies. You can see I haven't got to know either of them well yet :)
 
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Hi guys, just revisiting the choice of sound module for V52, the guys who install this for me seem to be pushing me towards the LGB module, but as you say it is about €75 more than the Massoth S, and I have two of these locos to equip. That said, I need to factor in the loudspeaker cost with the Massoth but not with the LGB pack. The guy who does the work at the shop is a general modeller (not a G specialist) and he may not be so confident with the more complicated Massoth fit, maybe. Anyway the main advantage of the Massoth is, if I understand well, a more tailored sound?
 
Zerogee

Zerogee

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Hi guys, just revisiting the choice of sound module for V52, the guys who install this for me seem to be pushing me towards the LGB module, but as you say it is about €75 more than the Massoth S, and I have two of these locos to equip. That said, I need to factor in the loudspeaker cost with the Massoth but not with the LGB pack. The guy who does the work at the shop is a general modeller (not a G specialist) and he may not be so confident with the more complicated Massoth fit, maybe. Anyway the main advantage of the Massoth is, if I understand well, a more tailored sound?

Yes, with the Massoth you will be able to get the correct sound files for that loco, but with the LGB "black box" the best you will get is a generic set of diesel sounds. Fitting a Massoth S is really simple - just two wires (brown and white) to connect to track power - if your loco already has an LGB MTS decoder in it then there will be two track-power connection pins around the middle of the loco main board that the wires from the S will simply plug on to. Then you just need to screw the speaker in place and plug the cable from it into the S module, and that's about it!

Jon.