Interesting set of early LGB points for sale

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Not sure of the age but the older points the movable rail was short as these are but never have seen this type of controller before
 
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Not sure of the age but the older points the movable rail was short as these are but never have seen this type of controller before
I hadn't noticed the difference in the points themselves, it was the controller that caught my eye.
 
PhilP

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Not sure I am convinced by these.. :think::think:

It may be digital artefacts, but the underside moulding does not look 'crisp' enough for LGB.
I do not see any model number moulded in, and the overall 'newness' of the (unboxed, remember) piece, just does not look right.

But what do I know?
(typed this before I had seen Greg's post)..
 
Greg Elmassian

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The ones I have/had (donated to our club) had no markings underneath, and did look "rough", the brass jumpers and nice screws was the giveaway.

Sorry I don't still have them or I would take a picture, but pretty darn sure they were LGB, came from an old estate, but no switch motor mechanisms.

Greg
 
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I don't recall seeing that throw mechanism either but they do look like the early R1 points going by the long angled sleeper/tie and point rails not going all the way to the frog. The connecting terminals underside do look very LGB.
 
korm kormsen

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they must be VERY old. (if the controler is original)
i have got two or three bought late in the year 1970. the tie/sleeper webbing is the same, the moving rails are the same length but the conroller is the long "box" with the lever at one end and three screw-contacts on the other.
 
PhilP

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Could it be the point is LGB, but the controller a different make? - I am assuming it is manual only, and not powered, at all?
 
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Could it be the point is LGB, but the controller a different make? - I am assuming it is manual only, and not powered, at all?
The controller appears to be part of the sleeper base which suggests that the whole thing is by one manufacturer.
 
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The controller appears to be part of the sleeper base which suggests that the whole thing is by one manufacturer.
I think it maybe separate from the track itself but it is exactly the same colour.

Model Power sold the same looking points back in the late 80's (probably made by LGB anyway) but they had the usual controller.
 
Madman

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What is that little pimple near the edge of the controller base ?
 
SevenOfDiamonds

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The same seller appears to have shifted a couple of RH points late last year, this time pictured with original boxes (and pre-decimal price labels!) . . .

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All the best

David
 
PhilP

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Well that seems pretty conclusive. - Excellent piece of detective work, David.

65 shillings.. £3.20 as a 'direct to today' conversion. :eek:

Apparently, in 1970, the average weekly wage was £32.00 and a loaf of bread cost 9p.
 
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Could it be the point is LGB, but the controller a different make? - I am assuming it is manual only, and not powered, at all?
but how?
by turning the lamp?
 
SevenOfDiamonds

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And while I'm "on a roll" . . .

The 1968 LGB calalogue showed manual R1 points with a differently-shaped mechanism . . .

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It was the 1969/70 catalogue before they looked like the ones under discussion (though retaining the "W" suffix letter) . . .

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All the best

David
 
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PhilP

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Ah, both typing at once.. :)

Pretty certain I have seen the earlier one?? :wondering:
 
JimmyB

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Well that seems pretty conclusive. - Excellent piece of detective work, David.

65 shillings.. £3.20 as a 'direct to today' conversion. :eek:

Apparently, in 1970, the average weekly wage was £32.00 and a loaf of bread cost 9p.
Don't forget beer was 1/10d