What to do with a Newquida loco

GAP

GAP

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Bit of progress on making a Garret (yes I finally made up my mind) the Newquida body has been hacked to pieces as have an aristocraft slope back tender and an LGB "Shorty" tender.
A new boiler bottom was fashioned out of a piece of 60mm PVC plumbing pipe.
Below are some pictures of the cut and shunt bits that are now ready for gap filling and sanding/filing.

Garret Boiler new lower section.JPG Garret front tank cut and shunt.JPG Garret front tank top view.JPG Garret Tender cut and shunt.JPG Garret components.JPG
 
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simon@mgr

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Interesting use of tender for front tank, I like it.
 
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Looking good. I missed your front tank extension and bunker cut off in the first pic you posted.
I forgot to say earlier that I have 2 exact same LGB locomotives which I have stashed to also build a Garratt but with no other parts so it's been a good design exercise.
It will be interesting to see your final build. :)
 
GAP

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When I sanded back the boiler bottom and started to blend it into the top I found that this was going to be a very long process, so instead of sitting for weeks filing a piece of PVC pipe to get it perfectly round again trying to get it look OK I have decided to put walkways along the join to hide the blending a bit.
The LGB "Shorty" has again given up some of its parts.

So far the body count for this build is;
2 Stainz
A Newquida loco
An Aristocraft "Rogers" slope back tender
An LGB "Shorty loco and tender.

Paradise, For scratchbuilt Garrets you might find some inspiration here
 
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They are interesting although x-4-x x-4-x ones are difficult to set the weight from both the boiler and tank/bunker to give best traction results (in the real world). Ideally they all need to be centered between the drivers. Also the geometry of the boiler is better for stability around corners. The Darjeeling Garrat has it's pivots just inside the drivers making room for the short tank and bunker to be centered over the outside drivers. No overlaying cut-outs in the tank/bunker for the pivot points.

Darjeeling Garratt


K1 Garratt
 
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Rob

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You could also have the cylinders on the inside leaving room for the pilots where they were making the front and rear decks unnecessary. The first Garratt K1 was designed this way although it had no pilot wheels.
Most Garratts afterwards were not built like that though. I think the cylinders and motion directly below the cab access was a issue. Note where the cab steps are.


K1 & 2 were the only two Garratts built with cylinders inboard. It was found that having the cylinders directly below the cab made it uncomfortably warm for the crew on the footplate.

A number of Garratts were built with side tanks for African countries so they could technically stay.

As already mentioned up thread, the pivots must be between the driving wheels, this is a common ‘mistake’ builders of Garratts in smaller scales make.

I’d recommend this website which has details and pictures of every Garratt type built.
 
ebay mike

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K1 & 2 were the only two Garratts built with cylinders inboard. It was found that having the cylinders directly below the cab made it uncomfortably warm for the crew on the footplate.

A number of Garratts were built with side tanks for African countries so they could technically stay.

As already mentioned up thread, the pivots must be between the driving wheels, this is a common ‘mistake’ builders of Garratts in smaller scales make.

I’d recommend this website which has details and pictures of every Garratt type built.
There's a photo of my part finished job on that website in the non commercial model Garretts section. It used two Bachmann BH chassis though, not LGB as stated.
 
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Hi Mr Gap,
How is your garratt project was going?


I built one last year with two lgb 2075 chassis to loosely resemble 'William Francis'
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(Would have liked the ones with the valve gear, but none were selling cheap)
 
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GAP

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The Garrett is sitting on a shelf along with an LGB Stainz conversion waiting for a "Roundtoit" to arrive.
The model builds are taking a back seat to the layout construction..

Blog has all the details and pictures
 
GAP

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Hi Mr Gap,
How is your garratt project was going?


I built one last year with two lgb 2075 chassis to loosely resemble 'William Francis'
View attachment 269935
(Would have liked the ones with the valve gear, but none were selling cheap)

That looks good might have to pick your brains for some ideas on how you did it.
 
dunnyrail

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East Coast have been offering Newquida bodies loaded onto sundry newquida wagons, probably as a result of returned bad ones? They look to be making good offers of sundry spares etc.


at £35 may be a good way to get the basic boiler if you wish to make a Garratt like this.