Scissors Crossing..with R1 points...60 degree crossing

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I'm thinking about a redesign of a fiddle yard, and was wondering about an R1 scissors crossing. For this I would need a 60 degree crossing section.
I remember seeing a kit ( possibly German ) for one. A quick search returns nothing. I've looked at Trainline, all their ready made items are below 45, such as 30, 20 etc.
Also Thiel don't do one...

Looking for one in 'LGB' code 332, prefer ready made as it's to be on a portable modular layout.

Piko have one in their catalogue..along with other points which have yet to make an appearance!!!

Malcolm
 
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Do note that the 43.00 Euro price of the kit version does NOT include the 6-piece check rails set ("Radlenker"), which is an optional extra at 15.00 Euro - the assembled option at 80.00 Euro DOES include the check rails, so the price difference is less than it first appears.
Whether you feel you want or need the check rails is of course up to you.
Giz, from your pic it looks like you bought the kit version without the check rails - any running problems through it at all?

Jon.
 
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Do note that the 43.00 Euro price of the kit version does NOT include the 6-piece check rails set ("Radlenker"), which is an optional extra at 15.00 Euro - the assembled option at 80.00 Euro DOES include the check rails, so the price difference is less than it first appears.
Whether you feel you want or need the check rails is of course up to you.
Giz, from your pic it looks like you bought the kit version without the check rails - any running problems through it at all?

Jon.
That's correct Jon, I brought the kit.

I've had no running issues so far....
 
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Thanks....I'll put my design together and see what the reaction is. I did spot that the crossing needs the extra checkrail bits to prevent derailments, and this brings the cost up to almost a ready made one. All the points would be motorised and decodered..I was wondering if there could be just one point number for 'straight through' and 'crossover' routes making shunting that bit easier.....

We may decide to go the R3 route, which of course needs a 45 diamond.

Malcolm

PS Double Diamond = yuk.
I once went to a real ale festival in the mid 80's with a person bought up on 'fizzy keg', he saw a sign saying DDD and immediately asked for Double Diamond. It was Dashers Downing Draught. I think he almost got escorted out....
 
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Thanks....I'll put my design together and see what the reaction is. I did spot that the crossing needs the extra checkrail bits to prevent derailments, and this brings the cost up to almost a ready made one. All the points would be motorised and decodered..I was wondering if there could be just one point number for 'straight through' and 'crossover' routes making shunting that bit easier.....

We may decide to go the R3 route, which of course needs a 45 diamond.

Malcolm

PS Double Diamond = yuk.
I once went to a real ale festival in the mid 80's with a person bought up on 'fizzy keg', he saw a sign saying DDD and immediately asked for Double Diamond. It was Dashers Downing Draught. I think he almost got escorted out....
Double Diamond, Watneys Red Barrel, Worthington E, my God what the breweries thinking? That's before we start on the Party Six
 
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That's correct Jon, I brought the kit.

I've had no running issues so far....
Gizzy, are those 'frog' bits insulated or do they require switching? I can follow the way the current is fed along the live rail from blown up piccies, but the mounting/wiring of those 4 castings is not clear (apart from the securing pin).
 
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Double Diamond, Wayne's Red Barrel, Worthington E, my God what the breweries thinking? That's before we start on the Party Six
I had a pint of Double Diamond once - on a school trip to Oxford, to see a Moliere play at a theatre with Edward Woodward in the lead role - the beer was as dire as the play.

In case you ask, I was supposed to be studying A level French - I failed, and the beer was lousy :emo::emo::emo::emo::emo:
 
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Gizzy, are those 'frog' bits insulated or do they require switching? I can follow the way the current is fed along the live rail from blown up piccies, but the mounting/wiring of those 4 castings is not clear (apart from the securing pin).
Gizzy will hopefully confirm, but I think (from looking at Bertram Heyn's stuff at Llanfair) that the "frog" castings you're referring to are actually plastic (a brass-coloured resin) rather than metal.....so no insulation or switching necessary.

Jon.
 
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Gizzy will hopefully confirm, but I think (from looking at Bertram Heyn's stuff at Llanfair) that the "frog" castings you're referring to are actually plastic (a brass-coloured resin) rather than metal.....so no insulation or switching necessary.

Jon.
That's clever. Pity LGB/Marklin/Piko don't adopt it. Mind you I expect another part requiring attachment would push the price up. Then there's the tooling costs plus introducing another plastic into the procedure.
 
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It was Watneys Red Barrel. Rowing boat jokes abound!
 
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It was Watneys Red Barrel. Rowing boat jokes abound!
You're right, my pad decided that even the very printed name was so vile, it wouldn't allow it to be raised in public. Mind you I suppose every one to their, own, I expect there's folk out there lamenting it's demise
 
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It was Watneys Red Barrel. Rowing boat jokes abound!
Brewery was on the Thames - eight by the finishing line for the Boat Race :cool::cool:
 
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Brewery was on the Thames - eight by the finishing line for the Boat Race :cool::cool:
The brewery is still there, but making much nicer beer, London Pride anyone? Unfortunately although it's at the finish of the Varsity race, the Eights and Fours head start there, so it's a long hard row before you get to the other end to try out their products:whew:
 
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The brewery is still there, but making much nicer beer, London Pride anyone? Unfortunately although it's at the finish of the Varsity race, the Eights and Fours head start there, so it's a long hard row before you get to the other end to try out their products:whew:
Yep, our school used to enter a few crews in the Tideway Heads :nod::nod:
 
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Yep, our school used to enter a few crews in the Tideway Heads :nod::nod:
Yep, our school used to enter a few crews in the Tideway Heads :nod::nod:
I was in a lowly rowing club, but happy days. Apart from sitting for hours in the cold waiting to start. And the pain. The bar at the finish was good though
 
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I was in a lowly rowing club, but happy days. Apart from sitting for hours in the cold waiting to start. And the pain. The bar at the finish was good though
My one regret, I was given the opportunity to join Vesta, but was too busy at the time with cigarettes, whisky and wild women
 
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My one regret, I was given the opportunity to join Vesta, but was too busy at the time with cigarettes, whisky and wild women
I spent some happy beer hours in Vesta, I'm quite sure they could have accommodated your passion of whiskey and wild women, not sure about cigarettes though
 
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You're right, my pad decided that even the very printed name was so vile, it wouldn't allow it to be raised in public. Mind you I suppose every one to their, own, I expect there's folk out there lamenting it's demise
So the beer was crap then but is much better now; it doesn't explain why pubs were plentyful then but have all but disappeared now.
Me I only ever drink Lager anyway but I do miss my favourite pub on Hartshead
 
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So the beer was crap then but is much better now; it doesn't explain why pubs were plentyful then but have all but disappeared now.
Me I only ever drink Lager anyway but I do miss my favourite pub on Hartshead
I think that was what keg beer was all about, trying to emulate lager, and obviously failing dismally. I haven't a favourite beer, but I do like to try the local brews when I'm away.