Saxon Rollwagen, LGB 49180. A review.

[pugwash]

Good review, good wagons.
Remember I mentioned Mel? well I can't remember if he built one or two, but one was certainly parked up at the Wetton Gooey interchange siding with a standard gauge wagon on it - probably a diorama as I can't think of it ever having been run on the 45mm track.
Oh and the Leek and Manifold had five wagons, four short and one long so if you are up for a kitbash

 

[PhilP]

Oh and the Leek and Manifold had five wagons, four short and one long so if you are up for a kitbash

Don't think the L&M's were anything like this? - A lot more basic..

 

[PaulRhB]

They

Don't think the L&M's were anything like this? - A lot more basic..

They looked basic because they were plated so you couldn't see the frames. They also were two lengths so long enough to fully accommodate the UK's shorter four wheel wagons and the six wheeled milk tanks so they had chopper couplings rather than coupling bars. They were effectively just another wagon.
Yatton do a 32mm one http://yattonmodelengineering.co.uk/leek.html a 45mm is more challenging to get the bogies to swing in that raised section! Yatton do it as a fixed 4 wheel wagon to get round this for 45mm.

 

[Rhinochugger]

Don't think the L&M's were anything like this? - A lot more basic..

Yes, in modelling terms they were, because all the gubbins was covered over; but they could also be converted to basic passenger carrying duties during 'Wakes Week' when the whole potteries area had their annual summer holidays, and the line worked overtime.

 

[PhilP]

This deserves a separate thread..
I have only ever seen that video of the old black and white film.. Probably need a 'Shires' book on the subject?

 

[Rhinochugger]

This deserves a separate thread..
I have only ever seen that video of the old black and white film.. Probably need a 'Shires' book on the subject?

Yes, could be a good idea, although I understand that there are precious few pictures of the line - some came to light recently including that video.

However, here's a long distance shot of a holiday special train, and I'm fairly certain that the open 'carriages' are transporter wagons

I think I've got more information in one of my books - I'll look it up over supper

 

[Zerogee]

Quite co-incidentally given some of the posts above (re converting wagons to 64mm for transport on rollwagens/rollbocks), the new issue of Gartenbahn Profi which turned up yesterday has a review article of some new items by Bertram Heyn designed for exactly that purpose - some new underframe parts to be used for converting Piko wagons, which are of course much more standard-gauge style than most LGB ones. I had a quick rummage on Heyn's website and turned up this item, which appears to be the conversion parts used in the article (I think you have to add the 64mm gauge wheelsets as a separate purchase):

https://www.modell-werkstatt.de/umruestsatz-piko-wagen-45-zu-64-mm

Jon.

 

[Rhinochugger]

I've started a Leek & Manifold thread in the appropriate area

 

[PhilP]

I've started a Leek & Manifold thread in the appropriate area

 

[wandgrudd]

The small black rectangle on one end of the coupling bars fits very well over a standard LGB coupling hook

Alan,

Sorry if i have missed this but do you have a picture of it fitted?

 

[stockers]

I'll go get one.

 

[stockers]

 

[wandgrudd]

Thanks Alan, like that neat design.

 

[Zerogee]

Alan, is the coupler bar all-plastic, or metal with a plastic end connector piece?

Jon.

 

[stockers]

The loops and adapter are plastic - the tube is metal. held together with tiny screws.

 

[KentKeith]

As mentioned on "Todays" thread the rollwagens made their appearance on the EG&SNNR:



At the moment I've mounted one Piko standard-gauge wagon and one LGB narrow-gauge wagon on the rollwagens:



I think the Piko wagon looks much more impressive than the LGB wagon. For starters the Piko wagon has buffers and looks the job so much so that I've decided that I'm going to get a Piko DR covered van to replace the LGB van.

One thing I had to do first was to ensure that the rollwagon and contents being carried would not foul the bridges on the layout:



No problem so a happy bunny!!

 

[dunnyrail]

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For those who do not use hooks at either end the system that I used in my Rolblocks copied from James with no feelings of guilt,. This should be easily adapted to fit the LGB Couplings via the screw fitting on the bar.