LGB Otto Mallett Bash

[Mik]

Really, really cool!

I ran into the long wheelbase problem when I used Stainz drives to build my Mallet (actually a Meyer, since both blocks pivot). I've been told it really isn't all that noticeable until you compare it to a prototype pic.

Abbreviated build log: http://www.the-ashpit.com/mik/malle...even notice) that yours is "too long" either.

 

[3Valve]

The Mallett kitbash continues. For the past three days it has been literally riveting
Don't ask me how many there are, I stopped counting at 278.

 

[mike]

loooking really good garath:love:

 

[beavercreek]

Damn fine Gareth...lovely bit of bashing. I think you'll find that there are 279.........................hat, coat

 

[philg]

I'm really enjoying following this build ! Could you tell us how the rivet detail is formed ?
Re prototypes, how about this one ? It's actually a Jung, I think, but the tender is rather attractive.

Phil

 

[Neil Robinson]

Re prototypes, how about this one ? It's actually a Jung, I think, but the tender is rather attractive.

Phil

And here's another very similar Jung that may be easier to research in the U.K.
http://www.whrsoc.org.uk/WHRProject/mallet.html

 

[shropshire lad]

Looking good Gareth

 

[Steve]

Just been through the whole thread Gareth inspiring i think is the correct word.

 

[yb281]

Looks excellent mate. What colour will it be?

 

[PaulRhB]

Looking good Gareth, I wonder if two of the feldbahn chassis could be used for a similar loco or would the drive be too high on those to hide?
I think you've got the body proportions right and looking forward to seeing it painted

 

[Philbahn]

It looks like a childs drawing of a loco.
Completely out of scale. Wheels too small boiler too long..

You have captured it perfectly
Cann't wait to see it complete

PS know what you mean about riveting think I am in the 400 region:wits::wits:

 

[yb281]

PS know what you mean about riveting think I am in the 400 region:wits::wits:

Never mind "in the region of", you know we need to know the EXACT number Phil!

 

[yb281]

For the past three days it has been literally riveting. Don't ask me how many there are, I stopped counting at 278.

Your 111 short :thinking:

112 I think you'll find

 

[Philbahn]

Three hundred & SixtZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Oops sorry
one, two ,three

PS know what you mean about riveting think I am in the 400 region:wits::wits:

Never mind "in the region of", you know we need to know the EXACT number Phil!

 

[Richie]

Looking very nice Gareth

 

[sparky230]

Reading this post, made me remember my trip to a&e with a thumb dripping claret

I was cutting the lgb badges off starter coaches to make them less toy like
as you can get starter coaches cheep, but the plain ones seem to fetch a fortune

 

[3Valve]

Thanks for the kind comments guys.

In answer to some of your questions:-

Philip - The rivet detail is done using Cambrian Models 16mm scale moulded rivet heads. They come in a pack cotaining around 230 rivets on 2 frets (link below).

http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/16intropage2.html

It's a bugger having to indiviudally cut em out and stick em down But I think it's worth the effort.

Mel - Black I think, nice satin black, but maybe with a little red lining.

Paul - I think proportionately the feldbahn chassis would look much better, and with the low slung motors and belt drive should be easy enough to conceal. I was just concerned that haulage capacity wouldn't be up to much using feldbahn stuff because of the belt driven arrangement, plus I picked up two Otto's for the price of 1 feldbahn lok.

Cheers folks. More later if I can get a modelling pass tonight .

 

[Zerogee]

Looking good Gareth, I wonder if two of the feldbahn chassis could be used for a similar loco or would the drive be too high on those to hide?
I think you've got the body proportions right and looking forward to seeing it painted

Hi Paul,

I'd suggested the use of two Feldbahn mechs early on in this thread, but Gareth very rightly pointed out not only the cost issue, given what the Feldbahn steamers go for, but also that the Feldbahn chassis has the motor hung on the back end of the unit, which makes it impossible to shorten and would make the articulation somewhat problematic. I'm sure it could be done with sufficient ingenuity and work, but I agree with Gareth that the Otto chassis are a far simpler and much cheaper solution.

Jon.

 

[PaulRhB]

Don't worry I wasn't suggesting changing this one I just couldn't remember how big the mech was, I agree the Otto chassis make sense haulage and price wise. I've never seen a feldbahn one stripped down and wondered if the motor and belt arrangement made them a bit too tall.
Gareth's build reminds me more of the larger RhB mallets with that wheelbase and the long smokebox and boiler forward of the tanks. Now can you see why it got me thinking? No no must concentrate on Harz!!!!

 

[Zerogee]

Don't worry I wasn't suggesting changing this one I just couldn't remember how big the mech was, I agree the Otto chassis make sense haulage and price wise. I've never seen a feldbahn one stripped down and wondered if the motor and belt arrangement made them a bit too tall.
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In terms of height, the Feldbahn mechanism is perfect - because EVERYTHING sits below footplate level; the problem is that to do that, they've hung the motor on the back of the drivetrain, so it drives the rear axle directly with a worm gear, but then the front axle is driven from the rear one via the infamous toothed rubber belt (which is great while it works, but now impossible to replace!). This keeps the unit amazingly low profile, but it means that you can't lop anything off the back because the motor is in the way; this long rear overhang makes using one of these mechanisms as the front unit of a Mallet layout a bit tricky geometry-wise.
Actually, I've often wondered whether it is possible to run an LGB Feldbahn mechanism WITHOUT the drive belt, just letting the coupling rods drive the front wheels? Anyone ever tried that?

Jon.