LGB new to this DCC help?
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John Russo
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Try F 9
How do access the loco lights ?
Ok got it but running in reverse on lights do I have to change the track connection over?
This is fantastic
I’m in heaven I can start full build and the lights are amazing it’s running so much smoother than anolog
John Russo
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I do not understand. "got it but running in reverse on lights"
Please restate what is happening.
If the decoder is wired correctly, you get lights by pressing F then 9.
If the loco is moving forward (or set to forward at zero speed), the front light should be on.
If the loco is moving in reverse, the rear light of the loco (if it has one) should be on.
Please restate what is happening.
If the decoder is wired correctly, you get lights by pressing F then 9.
If the loco is moving forward (or set to forward at zero speed), the front light should be on.
If the loco is moving in reverse, the rear light of the loco (if it has one) should be on.
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I was incorrect. You can change the braking and acceleration behavior with the handheld. It is described in the manual.
Hi so this is my actual first run.., it’s good from your advice
However when we are going forward the tender rear light is on
When I reverse the front loco light is on
Is a setting thing?
Can not tell you all how happy I am though
Great slow run and caboose red lights on
While I sit in a garden seat I am made up
So it’s just details
And learn functions
I found the F for lights
On loco
Just stuck on why they are operating the wrong way ?
Thanks team G
You have got me here and I sat outside until after ten just amazed.
Yes only one little loco but it’s great and I’m going to weather it ….
I used to work on toad of toad hole and postman Pat so I can model
It’s just the electric bit that trips me
So help on using handset to work lights etc is so needed
This will sound odd but when it got going from your advice tonight
I opened a beer and I was so happy
Thank you
Chris
How do I change it Phil xx
Hope you are well
John Russo
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Your problem may end up being a challenge for you.
Here are the manuals for the eMotion L
Installation manual: https://www.allaboutlgb.com/pdfs/Massoth%20eMOTION%20L%20Decoder%20User's%20Manual.pdf
CV Configuation manual: https://www.allaboutlgb.com/pdfs/Massoth eMOTION Configuration Manual M, L, XL, XXL V230.pdf
It is possbile your wiring guy wired the lights backward. There is a disctinct connection for the front light and a distinct connection for the rear light. See pages 8 and 9 of the installtion manual.
This can be flipped using CVs. You will need to change CV 51 to be 64 and change CV 52 to 128. I just tried this on one of my locos and it flipped the lights.
If your wring guy is nearby, I would tkae it to him and ask him to program the CVs.
For you to do it,you must set up a spearat eprogramming track (described inthe 55015 manual) and you must use the 55015 to program the CVs. Thisis risky business if you are a beginner.
Your guy likley has a programming track set up and PC software to read and program CVs.
Here are the manuals for the eMotion L
Installation manual: https://www.allaboutlgb.com/pdfs/Massoth%20eMOTION%20L%20Decoder%20User's%20Manual.pdf
CV Configuation manual: https://www.allaboutlgb.com/pdfs/Massoth eMOTION Configuration Manual M, L, XL, XXL V230.pdf
It is possbile your wiring guy wired the lights backward. There is a disctinct connection for the front light and a distinct connection for the rear light. See pages 8 and 9 of the installtion manual.
This can be flipped using CVs. You will need to change CV 51 to be 64 and change CV 52 to 128. I just tried this on one of my locos and it flipped the lights.
If your wring guy is nearby, I would tkae it to him and ask him to program the CVs.
For you to do it,you must set up a spearat eprogramming track (described inthe 55015 manual) and you must use the 55015 to program the CVs. Thisis risky business if you are a beginner.
Your guy likley has a programming track set up and PC software to read and program CVs.
John Russo
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I know the feeling of having a beer and just watching the little guys roll aroound the track. I just fitted an Massoth eMotion LS into a Spreewald.
I use 28 speed steps with a power buffer. Smooth as silk going over switches.
Three head lights, three reverse lights, and an interior cab light.
It has the Spreewald sound program in it.
She is a beaut!
I use 28 speed steps with a power buffer. Smooth as silk going over switches.
Three head lights, three reverse lights, and an interior cab light.
It has the Spreewald sound program in it.
She is a beaut!
Changing Cv’s can be a bit of a challenge. Assuming you have the so called “Loco Remote” 55015 it can be done. What I cant remember now not having had my mits on a 55015 for a lot of years is if you can check what the CV currently is. When changing CV’s best practice is to check current value, right it down then do your required change write that down then confirm change has been done. Great care to ensure that the Cv you are changing is the required one so this is a process that you do need to take great care with double checking every move and what you have input.
Later when you are more confident you should be able to do changes intuitively but recording what you want to change and what you have changed it to a vital part, so a small book with a page for each loco listing details of what CV’s you have revised a very recommended thing to have.
Later when you are more confident you should be able to do changes intuitively but recording what you want to change and what you have changed it to a vital part, so a small book with a page for each loco listing details of what CV’s you have revised a very recommended thing to have.
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Therein lies the challenge. You cannot read the values with the 55015. You can only set them.
I use the Massoth Service Tool with a suitible programming track to read and set CVs.
Chris, if your wiring guy can do it, that is your best approach.
If you want to try it yourself, I can walk you through it.
The good news is you only need to change 2 CVs.
Welcome to DCC!!
Let me know.
Therein lies the challenge. You cannot read the values with the 55015. You can only set them.
I use the Massoth Service Tool with a suitible programming track to read and set CVs.
Chris, if your wiring guy can do it, that is your best approach.
If you want to try it yourself, I can walk you through it.
The good news is you only need to change 2 CVs.
Welcome to DCC!!
Let me know.
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That’s amazing. way to go
I think I will take it back to Dave as it’s defo running rear lights going forward and front when it’s in reverse. And as it’s my first decoder and only loco as it stands it’s prob beyond me.
Great advise it’s a deep world and I’m so so green… will go back to Dave he will know more than me. And yes 55015…..this is the morning after my first run and setting a cv is beyond me at the moment as it stands I’m not sure how to find the loco but I have
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Good plan till you are confident. You can get a small LGB device that will connect your system to a PC where you can do updates and interrogate the CV’s. LGB 55045 that runs on my old Windows 98 Computer, another different unit was needed for a portable with I think USB link. You can just see it is plugged into my 50110 Transformer same as you have.
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Proper period set up. I designed steel town murders it’s on the bbc iPlayer at the moment… it was 1972 and 2002 so this gem would have fit right in
So the setting of cv is possible on my hand set but it’s harder than via a PC … can it be done on Mac?
As I say day two of DCC prob best to go back to folk who know.
I do want to learn mind… so part of me would like to try with you guys guiding as eventually I will need to know and if you don’t get wet toes you won’t learn to swim
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I thought maybe I had a wire the wrong way round. But it sounds like it’s a cv program thing.
First can anyone tell me how to select L3 my loco as I’ve just stabbed in the dark and got to it … but run two and I’m still not sure how I did it.
Sorry very excited as it’s running so much better than analogue I love the lights all being on properly.
Also it seems you can’t attach video on here is that right.
Thanks
Chris the rookie
First can anyone tell me how to select L3 my loco as I’ve just stabbed in the dark and got to it … but run two and I’m still not sure how I did it.
Sorry very excited as it’s running so much better than analogue I love the lights all being on properly.
Also it seems you can’t attach video on here is that right.
Thanks
Chris the rookie
John Russo
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You can use a Mac to program CVs. You woud need to acquire either an LGB 55045 or a Massoth 8175201 (Replaces 8175101)
You then need to install any one of many software programs that run on a MAC and can program CVs.
There are other videos on YouTube.
55045/8175201 would connect to the Mac via serial cable. Then the 4 other wires on the 55045/8175201 are connect to a power supply and piece of track. Green and Yellow to the power supply and Brown and White to the piece of track.
Set the loco on the track and use the software. JMRI (Free $0) is one such software. JMRI: Downloading and Installing DecoderPro
For me, I use the Massoth Service Tool (Free $0) on a PC. Massoth Service Tool – Massoth Systems GmbH
It is easy to use and is obviously well suited to programming Massoth decoders.
The key thing is that you can read CVs and see what they are.
In my next post I will outline using the 55015. Arrrrrghhhh
You then need to install any one of many software programs that run on a MAC and can program CVs.
There are other videos on YouTube.
55045/8175201 would connect to the Mac via serial cable. Then the 4 other wires on the 55045/8175201 are connect to a power supply and piece of track. Green and Yellow to the power supply and Brown and White to the piece of track.
Set the loco on the track and use the software. JMRI (Free $0) is one such software. JMRI: Downloading and Installing DecoderPro
For me, I use the Massoth Service Tool (Free $0) on a PC. Massoth Service Tool – Massoth Systems GmbH
It is easy to use and is obviously well suited to programming Massoth decoders.
The key thing is that you can read CVs and see what they are.
In my next post I will outline using the 55015. Arrrrrghhhh
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John Russo
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To program using the 55015.
1. Locate the red programming insert for the 55015 (Hopefully you have one). If you do not have one, game over.
2. Replace the regular operating insert with above.
3. Connect the yellow and green wires to the same power supply you are using to run the trains.
4. Connect the brown and white wires to the piece of track. (I recommend a 600mm length, i.e. two 300s or one 600)
5. Set the loco on the track
6. Turn the power on
7. Now comes the fun part. Do the folling EXACTLY as written.
8 Hopefully the 55015 is showing: C--
9. Press 5 then 1. The display should now show d -
10. Press 6 then 4. The diplay should now show d64
11. Press the Right Arrow button. You should hear a short faint motor noise from the loco and it should move forward slightly. That is the OK signal that the programning worked and CV 51 has been set to 64.
12. The Display should not show C--
13. Press 5 then 2. The display should now show d -
14. Press 1 then 2 then 8. The diplay should now show d128
15. Press the Right Arrow button. You should hear a short faint motor noise from the loco and it should move forward slightly. That is the OK signal that the programning worked and CV 52 has been set to 128.
It has been 10 years or more since I did this and I no longer have 55015 or MTS. I am a little uncertain how it handles the 3 digit setting of 128.
Assuming this works, remove the progamming insert and replace the operation insert on the 55015. Put the loco on your regualr running track, say three Hail Marys, Two Our Fathers and see if it works.
The link to the manual is here: https://www.onlytrains.com/manuals/55015_032004.pdf
See pages 58 and 60
John
PS: Now you see why we suggest using the Mac/PC.
1. Locate the red programming insert for the 55015 (Hopefully you have one). If you do not have one, game over.
2. Replace the regular operating insert with above.
3. Connect the yellow and green wires to the same power supply you are using to run the trains.
4. Connect the brown and white wires to the piece of track. (I recommend a 600mm length, i.e. two 300s or one 600)
5. Set the loco on the track
6. Turn the power on
7. Now comes the fun part. Do the folling EXACTLY as written.
8 Hopefully the 55015 is showing: C--
9. Press 5 then 1. The display should now show d -
10. Press 6 then 4. The diplay should now show d64
11. Press the Right Arrow button. You should hear a short faint motor noise from the loco and it should move forward slightly. That is the OK signal that the programning worked and CV 51 has been set to 64.
12. The Display should not show C--
13. Press 5 then 2. The display should now show d -
14. Press 1 then 2 then 8. The diplay should now show d128
15. Press the Right Arrow button. You should hear a short faint motor noise from the loco and it should move forward slightly. That is the OK signal that the programning worked and CV 52 has been set to 128.
It has been 10 years or more since I did this and I no longer have 55015 or MTS. I am a little uncertain how it handles the 3 digit setting of 128.
Assuming this works, remove the progamming insert and replace the operation insert on the 55015. Put the loco on your regualr running track, say three Hail Marys, Two Our Fathers and see if it works.
The link to the manual is here: https://www.onlytrains.com/manuals/55015_032004.pdf
See pages 58 and 60
John
PS: Now you see why we suggest using the Mac/PC.
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