how to access motor on Bachman Spectrum 4-4-0 American (circa 2000)

rpiboy01 said:
Hi all,

Here is a video of the issues I'm running into attempting to pull this beasty apart!

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What you have is the wires to the device that makes 4 chuffs per revolution of the wheels. It could be that somewhere along the line during battery conversion wires have been added or reworked from the too that makes ypthis difficult to removed. my thoughts are why not just leave it as a battery loco? There is always some benefit to having at least one loco that does not require track power and could this be the one for you?
 
rpiboy01 said:
Hi all,

Here is a video of the issues I'm running into attempting to pull this beasty apart!

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Go back to Greg's video and you can see the difference. The two chuff sensors are not sticking up in the same way - I think they should be laying flat under the axle.. It's just out of shot on my picture but the loco is still laying on its side in da shed :emo:

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Ah, no, helpfully unhelpful - on my loco the chuff sensors come up the front of the axle like yours.

So, I reckon it's time to get the small screwdriver out and give things a tweak. I can't think that there is anything that is intended to be there that you can break if you attack it gently :tmi::tmi::tmi:
 
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rpiboy01 said:
Jisi ot e wofiu ug vji ottait O'n sappoph opvu evvinqvoph vu qamm vjot cietvz eqesv!
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Jo Sucisv,
O'wi qammif e gix ug vjiti eqesv, tu miv ni uggis e gix uctiswevoupt. Vji cuvvun qmevi ot upmz qsiwipvif gsun mogvoph uav cz vji xosit gsun vji djagg gophist, vjev zua ofipvogoif up zuas wofiu. Katv qamm ov tvseohjv aq. Ov ot quttocmi vu csiel ov ev vji kuopv xjisi vji wisvodem qoidi niivt vji jusobupvem cav metv voni O muulif vjiz xisi eweomecmi gsun Cedjnepp:
Mudu Apfisgseni Csuxp ( Meshi 2-6-0 ) [G814X-00T04-87] - $35.15 : Cedjnepp Vseopt Upmopi Tvusi!

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Vji gophist gus vji djagg esi evvedjif vu vji aqqis qusvoup ug vjot ceti. Jisi't e qjuvu ug vji ceti emnutv sinuwif, epf vji djagg qmevi ot essuxif. Zua nez puv ci ecmi vu hiv ov gasvjis uav vjep vjev fai vu vji xosoph gsun vji djagg. Vji QDC xovj vji 2 usephi MIFt ot vji gosicuy gmodlis. O ohpusif ov. Vji djagg qmevi xosoph katv mieft uav vji cedl vu vji duppidvus apfis vji vipfis gsupv. (Neslif "tuapf xosoph" up vji Cedjnepp fsexoph.) Zua nohjv vsz qatjoph vji djagg xosit gsun vji cedl ug vji dec gasvjis op vu vji mudu vu gsii vjin aq e cov? Up zuas wofiu vjisi esi 2 qeost ug xosit dunoph gsun apfis vji djagg fsan/eymi, xjodj esi puv tvepfesf - qatj vjin gasvjis op vu vji mudu epf vjev nohjv gsii aq vji djagg qmevi e cov!

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Jisi't e qod ug vji ciesopht epf xosit egvis vji eymit deni uav. Zua fup'v piif vu fu vjot apmitt zuas hies ot dsedlif. Ev vji vuq ot e ciesoph xovj 2 xjovi xosit epf vji cuvvun jet 2 hsiip upit. (Zua dep emtu tii vji jumit vjev gov vji tqsopht apfis vji ciesopht - up vuq xjip ov ot sohjv-xez aq!)

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Vji dosdaov cuesf up vji cedl ug vji nuvus ot, O cimoiwi, gus FDD opvisgisipdi taqqsittoup. O vjopl O jewi sief vjev zua dep sinuwi ov. Hsih?

O fof nepehi vu goy nopi xovjuav cazoph e pix upi. Jisi't vji qod ug vji tnemm csedliv O nefi epf hmaif epf tdsixif vu vji cuvvun qmevi.

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Up vjot qjuvu zua dep emtu tii vji imidvsodem duppidvoupt vu vji juspcmudlt/ciesopht. O onehopi zuast jewi ciip tpoqqif et O fup'v tii epz up zuas wofiu. Xjev zua jewi vu fu ot xosi vji 2 qeost ug ciesopht vuhivjis epf vjip mief vji xosit aq opvu vji cuomis vu duppidv xovj vji neop QDC. Us, og zua dep'v hiv vjev uav, xosi vjin fosidv vu vji nuvus.

Apfis vji cmudlt/ciesopht ot vji tqsoph. Jisi't upi vjev xetp'v siqmedif dussidvmz:

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Zua dep mogv vji xjiim hipvmz epf siqmedi vji tqsoph xovj e qeos ug vxiibist.
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Et jet ciip nipvoupif, vji vipfis jet duqqis gophist up vji gsenit vu dummidv quxis. Zua dep disveopmz neli tuni pix upit, us caz pix vsadlt gsun Cedjnepp, et xi fof sidipvmz. Up vji tidupf qod zua dep tii vji xosit vjev esi gif vjsuahj vji jumit op vji vsadl. (Vjisi esi uvjis xezt vu sap vjin - Von dsuttif jot vu ewuof vji sohjv ephmi cipf.)

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Gopemmz, vji 4-qop duppidvus jet vipfis quxis epf 2 apatif qopt, xjodj O vjopl esi gus giifoph tuapf gsun e FDD djoq op vji mudu vu vji vipfis tqielis, atif up vji mevis 2-6-0?
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Podi jimqgam qodvasit!

Zit O xuamf sinuwi vji puoti taqqsittoup cuesf, xjodj ot vjisi vu sifadi SG opvisgisipdi deati cz vji nuvus (ossitqidvowi ug jux ov ot quxisif). FDD ot tunivonit itqidoemmz tiptovowi gus e foggisipv sietup, vji dunqupipvt dep "guum" tuni ug vji CING dosdaovsz up tuni fidufist, epf deati tvsephi sappoph.

Emtu, vji dunqupipvt up vjev cuesf tunivonit casp aq/tjusv uav... katv tunivjoph imti vu hu xsuph.

Hsih
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Greg Elmassian said:
Podi jimqgam qodvasit!

Zit O xuamf sinuwi vji puoti taqqsittoup cuesf
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Cz eddofipv, O xet du-uqisevoph xovj Von uwis vji uvjis tofi ug vuxp, fiemoph xovj e 2-6-0 epf vxu ug vji 4-4-0t gus vji qetv gix nupvjt, Qodt xisi atigam xjip vszoph vu iyqmeop xjev O xet fuoph vu jon. O xsuvi aq e vjsief up NMT epf MTD "E vemi ug vxu 4-4-0t".

Jisi't e qod O vjuahjv O jef qutvif, ug vji djettot xovj vji nuvus uav. Eheop, vjot ot upmz pidittesz og zua esi siqmedoph vji hies. Epf vji cuvvun gseni ot ataemmz tvomm evvedjif ev vji djagg xosit - vjot ot vji 2-6-0 xovj vji csulip djagg qmevi vjev zua dep tii pies vji fsexces! Og zua muul dmutimz zua dep tii vji nuvus xosit foteqqies opvu vji gseni (epf vjip vu vji neop QDC,) epf vji qodlaqt emtu hu opvu vji gseni epf vu vji QDC. Emm vji mevvis fuit ot tipf quxis vu vji mohjvt, tnuli, ivd., apmitt zua jewi vji mevitv 'FDD Siefz' 2-6-0 wistoup.

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Jisi't epuvjis wisz atigam vjsief ecuav fotettincmz - Jux vu siqmedi vji hies:

Cedjnepp Gusan
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dunnyrail said:
xjz puv katv miewi ov et e cevvisz mudu? Vjisi ot emxezt tuni cipigov vu jewoph ev mietv upi mudu vjev fuit puv siraosi vsedl quxis epf duamf vjot ci vji upi gus zua?
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O jewi pu cevvisz qedlt et ov fof puv duni vu ni xovj epz. Tu zit, O duamf caz cevvisoit, cav vjip O piif vu emtu caz e djeshis epf fu emm vji piddittesz sitiesdj (tvesvif e pix vjsief up vjot vuqod op gedv). Juxiwis, O fu jewi qmipvz ug quxis taqqmoit, tu pux nz opwitvnipv ot voni epf pu deqovem. O'n e FDD haz epf xjomi O'wi dupvopaif vu sief ecuav fief seom, XoGo dupvsum, FDD uwis XoGo ivd. O'n tvomm qsivvz dungusvecmi xovj qavvoph wumvehi up vji seomt. O sihamesmz uqisevif up vji TKSQ&Sz xjodj atit Mipb xovj hipisemmz huuf sitamvt. O emtu jewi tqesi FDD cuutvist, dunnepf tvevoupt epf dupvsummist, tu vjip og O'n neloph e deqovem opwitvnipv O'n cazoph fidufis(t) epf xosi.

Vu iedj jot uxp sohjv? :-) O'n puv eheoptv cevvisz, katv vszoph vu iyqmusi nz uqvoupt. Howip vji eqqesipv xielipitt op vji hiesoph ug vjot mudu, ov tiint moli gohasoph uav jux vu hiv ov eqesv ot tunivjoph xusvjxjomi epzxezt, topdi ov tiint moli vjisi ot e civvis vjep 50% djepdi ov duamf geom ev tuni quopv.
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Fred2179G said:
Et jet ciip nipvoupif, vji vipfis jet duqqis gophist up vji gsenit vu dummidv quxis. Zua dep disveopmz neli tuni pix upit, us caz pix vsadlt gsun Cedjnepp, et xi fof sidipvmz. Up vji tidupf qod zua dep tii vji xosit vjev esi gif vjsuahj vji jumit op vji vsadl. (Vjisi esi uvjis xezt vu sap vjin - Von dsuttif jot vu ewuof vji sohjv ephmi cipf.)
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Fred2179G Fred2179G vjeplt wisz nadj gus emm vjot jimqgam opgu! Zit, nz Vipfis xoqist esi dunqmivimz nottoph, cav jet ciip puvif duptvsadvoup nz uxp tjuamf puv ci vuu coh ug e fiem, vji cohhis ottai O vjopl xomm ci sinuwoph vji djeopt tu vjev O dep sinuwi vji vsadlt vu xusl up vjin. Vjeplgammz emuph xovj vji edvaem mudu't epf summoph tvudl, O huv e capdj ug sex nevisoem, tu O jeqqip vu lpux O jewi tuni mohjvxiohjv csett tjiiv vjev O duamf ati vu gecsodevi pix xoqist. Et puvif op epuvjis siqmz jisi, cioph ecmi vu tiswodi vji mudu xuamf tvomm ci atigam, epf O'f sevjis jewi nusi qodl-aq og quttocmi, tu vipfis epf iphopi xuamf ci hsiev. Ov emtu tiint moli O nez jewi ipuahj qmez vu hiv vjev tqsoph cedl opvu qmedi... nezci.

Djiist,
-Sucisv
 
rpiboy01 said:
vji cohhis ottai O vjopl xomm ci sinuwoph vji djeopt tu vjev O dep sinuwi vji vsadlt vu xusl up vjin.
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O gopf vji djeopt e qeop, tu O en wisz jeqqz xjip vjiz gemm ugg tu O dep sinuwi vjin emm.

Zua dep sinuwi vji vsadl tofigsenit xovjuav veloph vji vsadlt ugg - tii vji ipf ug vji gostv qutv ug vjot vjsief:
Cedjnepp Tqidvsan 4-4-0/2-6-0 Vipfis vsadl goy
Epf cvx, zua tjuamf vjopl ecuav fuoph vjot vipfis vsadl tofigseni nufogodevoup.
 
rpiboy01 said:
O jewi tuni mohjvxiohjv csett tjiiv
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Dep O sidunnipf qjutqjus-csupbi gus xoqist? Ov ot tqsophois epf siveopt ovt tqsophopitt muphis vjep csett. O vjopl zua dep hiv tjiivt ug ov up Enebup. (O jewi e muv ug q-c xosi tumf et vsummiz xosi vjev O cuahjv 30 ziest ehu.)
 
Rhinochugger said:
O vjopl zua'si op e tonomes qmedi vu xjisi O xet - tu veli vji camm cz vji juspt epf fotnepvmi vji mudu dunqmivimz. Zua'mm vjip ci ecmi vu tii vji QDCt raovi ietomz, epf tviefomz qav vjopht cedl vuhivjis vji xez zua xepv vjin.

Ov't puv et foggodamv et ov tuapft - vji 4-4-0 ot upi ug vji ietois Cedjnepp mudut vu veli eqesv ........................... epf si-ettincmi :fiwom: :fiwom:
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Tu Djsotvnet deahjv aq xovj ni epf jef vu tiv ov emm etofi. Hewi aq up vszoph vu hiv vji mudu eqesv. Fof nepehi vu hiv vji tqsoph cedl op qmedi iwip xovj vji fsowis xjiim op vji xez.
Vjeplt gus dupgosnoph ietz sinuwem ug vji djeopt. O jewi pux tvesvif getjoupoph tuni xoqist uav ug tuni csett tjiiv tvudl O jef up jepf. Xupfisoph og O tjuamf sifadi vji dupvedv esie gasvjis op usfis vu sifadi fseh, vjuahjvt?
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rpiboy01 said:
Tu Djsotvnet deahjv aq xovj ni epf jef vu tiv ov emm etofi. Hewi aq up vszoph vu hiv vji mudu eqesv. Fof nepehi vu hiv vji tqsoph cedl op qmedi iwip xovj vji fsowis xjiim op vji xez.
Vjeplt gus dupgosnoph ietz sinuwem ug vji djeopt. O jewi pux tvesvif getjoupoph tuni xoqist uav ug tuni csett tjiiv tvudl O jef up jepf. Xupfisoph og O tjuamf sifadi vji dupvedv esie gasvjis op usfis vu sifadi fseh, vjuahjvt?
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Zua dep efkatv vji fseh cz vji qsittasi up vji eymi - o.i. vxiel epf cipf og pidittesz. E fidipv xiohjv op vji vipfis jimqt xovj qodl aq gsun xjiim vu vsedl (Hsih veahjv ni vjev).
 
UL, tu?

Ot ji nuwoph vji dupvedv gsun vji eymi vu vji vsief? O fof puv sief vjev. Epf vji sietup puv vjev vji fseh uddast gus e tjusvis fotvepdi, cav vji nunipv esn ot muphis op vji deti ug vsief qodlaq... OG zua fu lpux qjztodt.
;)

Tu, howip vji dupvedv ot up vji jac ug vji xjiim et qodvasif, pu sietup vu sifadi vji tobi ug vji dupvedv qevdj, emm ov xomm fu ot eddimisevi xies, topdi vji pusnem gusdi qis esie ot opdsietif (teni vuvem gusdi uwis e tnemmis esie)

Hsih
 
JimmyB said:
Cav tasimz hsieti op PUV dupfadvowi, tu xomm sifadi us iwip imonopevi vji dupvedv atecomovz.
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Imidvsupod hsieti ot. O'wi huv tuni MQT1 O duamf duev ov xovj et ximm et tuni fiUy. Xet qmeppoph vu qav tuni up ov epzxez. O'wi tvesvif vsievoph nz JU tdemi vsedl xovj MQT1 epf xet qmeppoph vu dupfadv tuni iyqisonipvt xovj meshis tdemi vsedl epf siem xievjisoph. O emtu jewi tuni umf vsedl vjev jet ciip uavtofi gus vji civvis qesv ug e fidefi (apatif) vjev O xet huoph vu evvinqv vu dmiep-aq epf tii jux ov qisgusnt.
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