Removing body from one of “those”coaches.

PhilP

PhilP

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Oh dear... I'm now trying to remove the body from my mind :tmi:
'You're only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!'

Oh, sorry.... Wrong thread..

You do realise that image takes an Aster in therapy to put right?
;):giggle::giggle::giggle::sweating:
 
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
24 Oct 2009
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Some progress.
Body colour applied then masked up followed by detail colour/finished item, with a little overspray to retouch.
Only 2 more to go but I need more paint. The green is not quite as I would have liked but I can live with it.
In the process one of the coupling assemblies ‘fell off’. I had been toting the body around holding those!! The securing screw had a grip of less than 1mm in the chassis! I shall be checking all the others before use.
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KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
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In case anyone is wondering I am attempting to emulate these:
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KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
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A brief update: all coaches now sprayed, I even managed to remove the body fixing screws on the two latest ones.
However, all has not gone to entirely to plan.
Firstly, I could not find the green I wanted neither Halfords nor Wilko’s had the shade I wanted, I see too that Wilko’s range is massively reduced from what it used to be, so I settled for a darker green and an off-white both by Rustoleum.
Mistake! Their paint is more runny and despite a primer I have had a major problem on a coach end where no matter how many times (6) I sand back to the original I get either a pebble dash finish or runs.
Secondly, the paint does not like having masking tape peeled away and it chips. Normally, I would do two quick coats to get the finish I needed and immediately remove the tape. Because the pigments are so thin and the paint so runny I had to use 4 coats and allow the first 3 to dry. I ended up repainting most of one side, I may redo the other side too if it annoys me too much.

I am on the last leg with just a couple of dozen cheapo figures to be made legless in order to sit them in place.
With luck I should have them all at the next NWGScale meet in Altrincham.
What I now need are some ‘good value’ metal wheels. Anyone got any ideas on those please? When my son lived in the USA I bought lots of Ana Kramers and saved the postage but I no longer have that option. :-(
 
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dunnyrail

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Yes they are Newqida. My first lot were simple to dismantle but the screws in the current ones are almost all misshapes. I have stripped them to just body and base which is probably all I need to do to spray them.
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Just in passing, can anyone identify this livery (below) I came across?
Whilst looking for green and cream stock.


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Sorty only just got round to reading this post. Rugen Coaches in 2011.
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Thanks. You can’t beat pics of the real thing.
Given the trouble I have had painting the green and cream ones I wish I had opted for this unusual livery. I may yet sand them off and repaint.
 
ebay mike

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However, all has not gone to entirely to plan.
Firstly, I could not find the green I wanted neither Halfords nor Wilko’s had the shade I wanted, I see too that Wilko’s range is massively reduced from what it used to be, so I settled for a darker green and an off-white both by Rustoleum.
Mistake! Their paint is more runny and despite a primer I have had a major problem on a coach end where no matter how many times (6) I sand back to the original I get either a pebble dash finish or runs.
Secondly, the paint does not like having masking tape peeled away and it chips. Normally, I would do two quick coats to get the finish I needed and immediately remove the tape. Because the pigments are so thin and the paint so runny I had to use 4 coats and allow the first 3 to dry.
I've had good results with Plastikote (from B&Ms) although the range limited. They also do primer and lacquer. I no longer use standard masking tape. Been converted to Frogtape - more expensive, but leaves a cleaner line and being less tacky doesn't lift any previously applied coats.
 
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I've had good results with Plastikote (from B&Ms) although the range limited. They also do primer and lacquer. I no longer use standard masking tape. Been converted to Frogtape - more expensive, but leaves a cleaner line and being less tacky doesn't lift any previously applied coats.
Yes I have had good results with Plasticote but it seems to be one of the brands dropped by Wilko’s.
I haven’t tried Frogtape but, where possible I use Tamiya and attach standard masking tape to it. Cheapskate that I am!
 
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
24 Oct 2009
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Thanks. You can’t beat pics of the real thing.
Given the trouble I have had painting the green and cream ones I wish I had opted for this unusual livery. I may yet sand them off and repaint.
Just to return to these, the model pics I had seen appeared to show an “orangey” livery but the real thing looks brown.
 
MTheStrong

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Just to return to these, the model pics I had seen appeared to show an “orangey” livery but the real thing looks brown.
Here is a photo from my visit in 2008:

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KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
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Definitely brown to my eyes. Glad I didn’t go mad and spray them orange.
It would have been different though!
 
PhilP

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Just to return to these, the model pics I had seen appeared to show an “orangey” livery but the real thing looks brown.
Probably the European equivalent to Stroudley Green! :giggle::giggle:
 
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
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Probably the European equivalent to Stroudley Green! :giggle::giggle:
In fact, that was exactly my thought!! Or, Improved Engine Green on the Jones Goods. Great minds etc etc. . . . ;-)
 
PhilP

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In fact, that was exactly my thought!! Or, Improved Engine Green on the Jones Goods. Great minds etc etc. . . . ;-)
I wonder if he was colour-blind?
Or, just had a wicked sense of humour?
:devil::giggle::giggle::giggle::devil:
 
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
24 Oct 2009
13,006
12
Nr Manchester
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
24 Oct 2009
13,006
12
Nr Manchester
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The repaints have their first outing minus decals on the NWGscale layout in Altrincham.
The jury is still out as to whether I paint them in a different livery.
Perhaps after all that effort I just don’t like green and cream. . . .:mad:
 
KeithT

KeithT

Hillwalking, chickens and - err - garden railways.
24 Oct 2009
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Nr Manchester
It has just occurred to me that I could name the green and cream “chip shop” train - wait for it -
The Frying Scotsman.

Hat, coat, door. . . . . .
 
stockers

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View attachment 236231 The repaints have their first outing minus decals on the NWGscale layout in Altrincham.
The jury is still out as to whether I paint them in a different livery.
Perhaps after all that effort I just don’t like green and cream. . . .:mad:
Not when pulled by a IV K, anyway! They would look great behind a Rugen tank.