Piko points: opinions wanted

KeithT

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They are so easy to open up and check. I wouldn't take the chance of one being a 'rogue' and would check the lot.
 

gregh

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Just to add my recent experience...
Even with the 'bad press' about loose screws, I figured with battery power the problem didn't matter. So I bought 3. Two were OK.
On the 3rd one, the moving blade didn't fit snuggly against the fixed rail. I finally found it wasn't vertical. see pic
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I finally twigged to the problem being the fact that the screw underneath was loose and too long, as per many previous posts and this allowed the moving blade to flop around and not seat properly against the fixed rail. So the screw problem is not just an electrical continuity problem.
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Now these stupid screws are Torx head, so after buying a small screwdriver I tried to tighten it, but just managed to 'strip' the head. Why on earth do they use Torx? Anyhow the only way I could fix the problem was to jam some 0.5mm styrene under the screw head and glue it in, hoping I didn't glue the blade to the base. Now installed - and will be OK I hope. But not a good experience from PIKO.
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Gizzy

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gregh said:
I finally twigged to the problem being the fact that the screw underneath was loose and too long, as per many previous posts and this allowed the moving blade to flop around and not seat properly against the fixed rail. So the screw problem is not just an electrical continuity problem.
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Now these stupid screws are Torx head, so after buying a small screwdriver I tried to tighten it, but just managed to 'strip' the head.

I suggest that, following Greg's experience, one should loosen and remove the screw, rather than trying to tighten it. The screw is obviously too long for the blind hole. Also, the TORX screws are probably fitted using a powered driver, hence their use.

Then I would fit a shake proof washer before re-assembly.

I reckon that a washer should have been fitted at the factory, but for some reason has been omitted and poor QC hasn't picked this up....
 

KeithT

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Gizzy said:
gregh said:
I finally twigged to the problem being the fact that the screw underneath was loose and too long, as per many previous posts and this allowed the moving blade to flop around and not seat properly against the fixed rail. So the screw problem is not just an electrical continuity problem.
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Now these stupid screws are Torx head, so after buying a small screwdriver I tried to tighten it, but just managed to 'strip' the head.

I suggest that, following Greg's experience, one should loosen and remove the screw, rather than trying to tighten it. The screw is obviously too long for the blind hole. Also, the TORX screws are probably fitted using a powered driver, hence their use.

Then I would fit a shake proof washer before re-assembly.

I reckon that a washer should have been fitted at the factory, but for some reason has been omitted and poor QC hasn't picked this up....
Another minor annoyance is that the screw holding the baseplate is NOT Torx so a different screwdriver is needed.
 

gregh

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Gizzy said:
I suggest that, following Greg's experience, one should loosen and remove the screw, rather than trying to tighten it. The screw is obviously too long for the blind hole.
Boy, do I second that idea!!!!
 

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Gizzy said:
I suggest that, following Greg's experience, one should loosen and remove the screw, rather than trying to tighten it. The screw is obviously too long for the blind hole. Also, the TORX screws are probably fitted using a powered driver, hence their use.

Then I would fit a shake proof washer before re-assembly.

I reckon that a washer should have been fitted at the factory, but for some reason has been omitted and poor QC hasn't picked this up....

I laid mine over 12 months ago, and after reading other people experiences this is exactly what i did. I did re-use the original screws as well though, but I gave them a dose of copper slip before laying them. So far they are ok.
 

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i can now confirm, i m have NO issues with the piko points, unbelivable, but true.. it dose help the fact i havent got any, anymore..
 

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mike said:
i can now confirm, i m have NO issues with the piko points, unbelivable, but true.. it dose help the fact i havent got any, anymore..

Mike - you just made me dribble coffee over my keyboard! :rofl: