Peckforton sawmill

[ge_rik]

Made a start over Christmas on my latest project - the sawmill at Peckforton.

I wanted to make sure the roof structure worked out OK before doing too much to the rest of the building. My interpretation of Belfast trusses - a bit over-engineered for the size of the building, but I wanted something that looked a bit different.

Next stage will be to clad the roof in corrugated iron - the drinks can donors can just be seen in the background, and then a few more coffee stirrers trimmed down to provide the workers with some protection from the elements.

Then will come the fun part of making the machinery.

Rik

 

[dunnyrail]

Looks like there has been a run on Coffee Stirers in your neck of the woods Rik! Sawmills are a great source of Traffic for your line. Logs in on Flats or Bolsters, planks and other wood products out in Opens and Vans. I forsee a few more Double Headres on your line.

 

[Madman]

Drinking a bit of coffee lately, Rik.....?

 

[stockers]

Looking good. Nice to see a properly laid out Belfast truss.

 

[Rhinochugger]

Looking good. Nice to see a properly laid out Belfast truss.

Like what the man said - these have not been popular for a long time - I suspect that they are too complex for most designers, let alone the average tradesperson.

That said, bearing in mind that the warren girder truss, and its various derivatives, are designed on the basis of resolution of the triangle of forces, how does one do the calcs for a Belfast truss?

 

[PhilP]

Like what the man said - these have not been popular for a long time - I suspect that they are too complex for most designers, let alone the average tradesperson.

That said, bearing in mind that the warren girder truss, and its various derivatives, are designed on the basis of resolution of the triangle of forces, how does one do the calcs for a Belfast truss?

Presumably as a Warren truss.. But over, and over, and over again!
Or just go for the next size up in metal!

 

[ge_rik]

..... how does one do the calcs for a Belfast truss?

http://www.artefacts.co.za/main/Buildings/style_det.php?styleid=1592

Not that I did anything anywhere near as complicated - I just based mine on a drawing of one.

This bit makes it sound like an interesting concept

"The speed of construction of the Belfast roof, had great advantages over other forms of roof construction. In America the Belfast roof was also known as the 'Build Fast' roof. The speed of construction was due to the fact that it was nailed and prepared on the ground and then hoisted up into position."

Rik

 

[Rhinochugger]

Or just go for the next size up in metal!

Ah, that has a design term, 'Rule of thumb'. But many Belfast trusses are on big structures like aircraft hangars, and I wouldn't have thought that rule of thumb would have been the preferred option.............

 

[Rhinochugger]

"The speed of construction of the Belfast roof, had great advantages over other forms of roof construction. In America the Belfast roof was also known as the 'Build Fast' roof. The speed of construction was due to the fact that it was nailed and prepared on the ground and then hoisted up into position."

Rik

Ah, reminds me of when, as a General Foreman, I had to approve Paddy's timesheet. One of the jobs he had been doing (according to his time sheet) was installing an Irish Jay

 

[ge_rik]

Ah, reminds me of when, as a General Foreman, I had to approve Paddy's timesheet. One of the jobs he had been doing (according to his time sheet) was installing an Irish Jay

Brilliant!!

It reminds me of that inverse Irish joke

The English workers on a building site are joking that the new Irish worker, Paddy, wouldn't even know the difference between a Joist and a Girder. So one of the blokes goes and asks him. Paddy thinks for a moment and then replies ...... "Hmmmm, that's a tricky one. I'd say that the biggest difference is that Joyce wrote Ulysses whereas Goethe wrote Faust."

Rik

 

[Rhinochugger]

Brilliant!!

It reminds me of that inverse Irish joke

The English workers on a building site are joking that the new Irish worker, Paddy, wouldn't even know the difference between a Joist and a Girder. So one of the blokes goes and asks him. Paddy thinks for a moment and then replies ...... "Hmmmm, that's a tricky one. I'd say that the biggest difference is that Joyce wrote Ulysses whereas Goethe wrote Faust."

Rik

 

[trammayo]

Ah, reminds me of when, as a General Foreman, I had to approve Paddy's timesheet. One of the jobs he had been doing (according to his time sheet) was installing an Irish Jay

I was going to add a link to Paddy's Sick Note but my PC is playing up!

Edit;
"The Sick Note" Sean Cannon - The Dubliners - YouTube

 

[PhilP]

I've just got two Shovels here....

and was told to take my Pick!

 

[Paul M]

But if it wasn't for Irishmen,, would our railways have been built?

 

[Rhinochugger]

But if it wasn't for Irishmen,, would our railways have been built?

Absolutely not, but the best craic is that the Irish love the irish jokes - they are great guys to work with

 

[Gizzy]

But if it wasn't for Irishmen,, would our railways have been built?

Irish labour was used to build our early motorway network in the 60s/70s.

The irony is that the M50 motorway around Dublin was built by the Brits....

 

[Paul M]

Irish labour was used to build our early motorway network in the 60s/70s.

The irony is that the M50 motorway around Dublin was built by the Brits....

We had to, they were building ours

 

[trammayo]

We had to, they were building ours

The rolling English roads!

 

[ge_rik]

Progress is slow with this project. Still finding my feet with this construction technique - it's a case of now I've done one I think I know how I'd do the next one.

The roof has been clad in corrugated aluminium foil (from baking trays) and the sides clad in coffee stirrers.

The next stage is painting and then figuring out how to model the various bits of machinery.

Rik

 

[Paul M]

Progress is slow with this project. Still finding my feet with this construction technique - it's a case of now I've done one I think I know how I'd do the next one.

The roof has been clad in corrugated aluminium foil (from baking trays) and the sides clad in coffee stirrers.

The next stage is painting and then figuring out how to model the various bits of machinery.

Rik

There was a series in the Garden Rail magazine a couple of years ago, with all the info you need. Try issues 254-255