Live Steam Austrian U Class
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LGB have produced a model of a U-Class, pretty much from the start. As a result, they are available, second hand, is a very wide variety styles, liveries, electrical complexity and cost. I have two fairly old versions, although not the oldest, which I have modified in an attempt to anglicise them for my needs.
You can click on the links below to see how I modified them.
Claptowte Railway - Locomotive No1 'Joyce'
Claptowte Railway - Locomotive No2 'Kristin'
David
You can click on the links below to see how I modified them.
Claptowte Railway - Locomotive No1 'Joyce'
Claptowte Railway - Locomotive No2 'Kristin'
David
A German Company Regner did one. I think it was nearer to 16mm scale and Andy Rush of Ruschbahn fame had one, ran like a pig and was too big for LGB stock.
Not exactly an accurate representation and out of production for many years, but Beck did one Locomotive of the Month
While I have no doubt it's a nice model, when I started in the larger scale I decided any steam locos would be live steam, just a personal choice.
The last entry for the Regner model was around 2010 -
A few came here - I bleeve Rod Blakeman built one. They were heading in the region of £2750-3000 and had many details like lighting, brakes, whistle usw.
Here's one -
Yes. Regner in Bavaria made one as a kit a number of years ago, only gas-fired. Coal-firing would be VERY problematical due to the fact that there is zero access to a coal-hole.
A few came here - I bleeve Rod Blakeman built one. They were heading in the region of £2750-3000 and had many details like lighting, brakes, whistle usw.
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If you are serious, then as well as the usual live-steam purveyors, do contact Graham, at Garden Railways Limited - gardenrailways.co.ukThanks, very nice, now to see if I can find one
He is my 'go to' for Regner..
PhilP
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Good luck with that - the last I saw of a Regner U11 was in a 2011 catalogue as an 'aufslaufmodelle' - 'discontinued model'. Given the odd scale and huge cost for the kit, I'd be amazed if sales here went into double figures.
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I know what you mean..
Herr Regner's choice of making things to 30mm track-gauge etc. must have limited demand?
I picked-up a little diesel, at Peterborough. It rivals the little GRS offering, for scale (read glacial) speed.
PhilP
Herr Regner's choice of making things to 30mm track-gauge etc. must have limited demand?
I picked-up a little diesel, at Peterborough. It rivals the little GRS offering, for scale (read glacial) speed.
PhilP
Ah, you are talking about the Regner Feldbahn models - unique to that company, and like to stay that way in the total absence of anything else.
Regner's choice of 1/22.5 for their live-steam stuff was intended for those fixated on LGB trains, and the 16mm market was never in the mind of the late Herr Regner, as I discovered when I talked to him about it a few years back. 'My home market is big enough for me!' he said. No doubt, but with the Zillertal loco and coaches running around here in Mid-Wales it would have been nice to see one in 16mm scale, in spite of the rather large size by comparison with 'Earless'.
With the likes of Peter Angus be happy to make one for you - at a cost - and Zillertal passenger cars available in kit form from Lineside hut - a 16mm scale Zillertal train is achievable. Say five hundred English flarps for the cars and five thousand for the loco - job done!
Regner's choice of 1/22.5 for their live-steam stuff was intended for those fixated on LGB trains, and the 16mm market was never in the mind of the late Herr Regner, as I discovered when I talked to him about it a few years back. 'My home market is big enough for me!' he said. No doubt, but with the Zillertal loco and coaches running around here in Mid-Wales it would have been nice to see one in 16mm scale, in spite of the rather large size by comparison with 'Earless'.
With the likes of Peter Angus be happy to make one for you - at a cost - and Zillertal passenger cars available in kit form from Lineside hut - a 16mm scale Zillertal train is achievable. Say five hundred English flarps for the cars and five thousand for the loco - job done!
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Thanks Phil, message sent, waiting with dread (because of the price) and anticipation on the reply.
Looking at the May 2022 issue of 16mm today (p21) there is an article on Roundhouse. Lo and behold one of the early pictures dated 1988 or 89 shows a Zillertal build underway. I think this may well have been when Roundhouse were perhaps utilising Beck parts as Tom Cooper did. Yes the RH museum shows that RH fitted their cylinders to 3 Beck types between 1988-90.
Just search for Zillertal using the pull down menu on this site.
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Regner and Wyko have done several of the LGB locos in live steam. From Regner is the Stainz(both black/red and green/red), U class, SEG 104 0-6-6-0 Mallet and the Harz 2-10-2t. Wyco did the Harz 2-6-2t. Good luck finding any of them, all are high end Regner limited editions and quiet hard on the wallet to purchase. I would love to own any of those models in the next few years if anybody is considering selling but not in a big hurry. The Beck 0-6-2, while a bit crude looking, do look good when pulling some colorful LGB coaches thru the garden and those do pop up for sale from time to time(usually the green version) a rare late model with Roundhouse cylinders was offered after RH bought out what was left of Beck. I keep hoping RH will spread their wings and model the Zillertal #2 that is visiting the W&L right now or their Euro 0-8-0 that is almost done with its restoration to operation.
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Now that would be interesting. Could the Zillertal #2's presence on the WLLR trigger a decision by RH to evaluate that loco for revision to mdern standards mechanically and aesthetically ? The Lineside Hut 16 mm Zillertal coaches are little wonders of detail (I have built 2). Although I have been informed, by one who should know, they do not represent those at the WLLR. For the time being I will rely on my battery/RC LGB #2.
Looking at Tac's post of the Regner U Class it is interesting to note it has the same non-prototypical wide rear frames like the LGB iterations - all the better to negotiate R1's ? Max
It would be a massive quandry for RH which scale to model it in. The world wide buying crowd would want it in LGB scale of 1:22.5 to match all the exhisting rolling stock on the market. Only the UK buyers would push for the 16mm scale. But yet I see many scales mixed on UK garden railways just as they are else where. A smart builder would offer the model in the scale that offers the largest ROI, which would be LGB scale to appeal to the largest buying pool.
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