ESU DECODER PIN CONFIGURATION FOR ARISTO CLASS 66

[TONYWARD50]

Hi, again.
I have a friend's Class 66 which is not working.
The Decoder is a plug and play type and appears to be a variant of an ESU XL3.5, but has 12 pins rather than 9 sockets.
Can anyone tell me how these pins are configured as I want to test the decoder ?
The ESU site is no help.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

 

[ntpntpntp]

Don't think I've ever seen a plug-n-play ESU decoder that fits the Aristo socket. Can you post a piccie?

The plug-n-play decoders I have are Digitrax (DG383AR and DG583AR) and QSI sound decoders (Quantum Aristo)

My 66 has a DG583AR in it.

The pin-out for the Aristo socket is here:
http://www.aristocraftforum.com/techinfo/dcc rcc pin connectors/index.html

 

[Cliff George]

Not sure really, but the LokSound V4.0 manual does seem to say that there was once factory installed LocSoundXL V3.5 decoders, but only in Kiss, KM-1 and some Marklin 1 models and says that they had a multi pin plug connector. Check out section 6.8.2.4 on page 17.

 

[TONYWARD50]

Thanks for your help.
Decoder has been pronounced D.O.A.

Here is a pic of ESU decoder on Aristo board

 

[Cliff George]

It certainly looks like an ESU XL 3.5 decoder, but I've never seen one with pins before, nor can I find any info about it on the web.

 

[beavercreek]

I have found this piccy of an ESU XL V4 board with pins instead of terminals.

SouthWest Digital are the folk to ask about anything ESU in UK....friendly bunch too!
http://www.southwestdigital.co.uk/New design Home v2 Java.htm < Link To http://www.southwestdigit...20Home%20v2%20Java.htm

 

[ntpntpntp]

Ah.... looks like the decoder is mounted in an adapter board and then plugged into the Aristo pnp socket. I did read something on a german forum about such an adapter board made by ESU but couldn't find any info.

I'll have to have a better look around in case I ever get hold of one of these adapter boards.

 

[ntpntpntp]

Ah-ah, here it is - complete upgrade kit for the class 66, with the adapter board.

http://www.esu.eu/produkte/fruehere-produkte/loksound-umbau-sets/aristocraft-class-66/

 

[beavercreek]

The XL decoder and adapter board list for ?10 more than the 'normal' XL but I wonder if the adapter board is available separately.
Me thinks that the two XL boards (with sounds for Class 66 diesel and the Bachmann K27) are specially made to attach to the adapter board and then hook up with the two locos using their 'plug and play' sockets.
I have a couple of ESU decoders and would like to pop one into a SD45 (with Aristo plug and play socket) using the adapter but it probably is only for the two aforementioned boards as the terminals on the board would have to be different to the 'normal' screw terminals found on the bog standard Loksound XL decoders.

 

[TONYWARD50]

I agree. Unfortunately South west Digital are on holiday all this week, so I was unable to ask Caroline anything, and I wanted to try and get this decoder working. As it happens I have just arranged the funeral for it......