Anyone else used Thomas bigscale coaches?

Fred2179G

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Guys, I need some advice. I was going to add detail to the underframe, but I have 2 questions:
1. What was the truss material? In the US it is steel rod with a turnbuckle. From the photos I am seeing it seems to be square section in the UK?
2. How were the extra footboards attached? Suspended from the frame and linked from one side to the other?

Photos would be wonderful - its too far for me to visit a UK museum!
 
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Yesterday was window experiments. I want to remove the white trim around the "Emily" coach windows. I found my Polly S decal/transfer and paint remover, so I put some in a dish and dropped a window into it, and promptly forgot it for an hour or so. It came out hazy, so I read the instructions (duh!) and treated another window to a slight dose using a paint brush, and I took the Polly S off when there was any sign of crinkling. With a bit of rubbing it came off. Here's the first trial window and the second.

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I scratched up the second window getting the rest of the paint off, and I visited Jerry and picked up his motorcycle windshield treatment kit, (My marine compound was useless - the plastic bottle disintegrated ion my hand when I tried to shake it! Fortunately the compound was a congealed mess, so it didn't destroy my wife's kitchen.)

The second experiment, due to the haze on window 1 and scratches I had made on #2, was to wet-sand down all 3 windows with 400 grit emery. That left them pretty hazy, but only on one side this time. The Novus 3 is quite aggressive and made a good job of clarifying those 4 windows. Not quite to the pristine standard of the originals, so it's a good job I have some spares.

I then tried Greg's suggestion of removing the paint with the compound, and that worked, though it's a lot of work and I have 30+ windows to deal with. On the three windows on the right of the strip the clear acrylic is still clear and the paint is just about gone. The original experiments are not yet clear enough!

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While waiting for some paint, I had a few minutes so I went looking for underframe photos and found a few.

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It appears to be steel rod, but without a turnbuckle - in the US the length is adjusted in the center, where it is easy to get to it. On the other hand, this is a steel underframe, so it shouldn't need adjusting!

I dug around the parts boxes and found some 1/16th brass rod which seemed the right size. I also found 3 white metal bits that I think are Ozark pins for a link-and-pin setup. With a little 3/64th rod filed flat at the end to make a loop, a covering of 1/16th ID tube (5/64 OD) and a 3/16th sliver of tube on the end I had a credible truss rod support. It needs soldering together.

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Fred2179G

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Yeah, the novus stuff is good, but you have to go to #2 and then #1 to get the polish you need. Did you start with the #3 to cut the paint faster?
Greg
I didn't even borrow the #1. And yes, with 30+ windows to clean, starting with #3 seemed prudent! I may do one batch with PollyS to get most of it off before I start polishing. Anyway, looks as if it will have to wait until next summer.
 
Fred2179G

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Another spare 1/2 hour between packing, so a little progress on the underframe. The truss rods look much as I remember from my youth in the West Riding. Battery boxes aren't here yet, and I should probably be using gas cylinders for the lighting (!) but my coach made it into the 1920s so it got newer lights.

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Fred2179G

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I'm posting most of this on a parallel LSC thread, and I got some comments about the truss rods.

Them rods look a bit low to me. Maybe they won't look so low once the battery boxes are installed.
David, they come in all shapes and sizes (and thanks to Forrest for some more photos!) I do have drawings for several types so I could make them exact if I was so inclined. However, I'm after more of a general look that seems right to me.



In fact, they are getting full length foot boards, as in these 2 photos.











(This last one was photoshopped to lighten the underframe so you can see the foot boards.)
 
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What a smashing job,well done
 
Jerry Barnes

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I made a decal from a good photo of one. Did make it a little larger. I'll see if I can find it. I have better GNR, this was part . Could not find the finished third coach. I figured the brown inside would not be noticiable on a brown coach. I used the green one. Jeremy Viewing has posted some great pictures on here of his coaches, he may have done a decal by now.
 

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