0-4-0 wanted

Revok

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Hi all,

Before I take a punt on the likes of Ebay, I thought I'd ask here.

I'm looking for a Stainz / Otto / Casey 0-4-0 type loco. Physical condition doesn't matter too much, the only criterion is that its a decent runner. I'm not after a bargain... happy to pay a fair price for it.
 
ebay mike

ebay mike

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Hi all,

Before I take a punt on the likes of Ebay, I thought I'd ask here.

I'm looking for a Stainz / Otto / Casey 0-4-0 type loco. Physical condition doesn't matter too much, the only criterion is that its a decent runner. I'm not after a bargain... happy to pay a fair price for it.
I may be able to help you there. Do you have a preference for loco type or colour before I look to see what I've got?
 
Revok

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Thanks for the reply Mike. It doesn't really matter too much which loco I end up with. The Otto style is probably slightly more preferable, but any one of the Stainz/Otto/Casey locos will do me just fine. Colour doesn't matter as there is going to be a good bit of slashing and repainting going on!
 
ebay mike

ebay mike

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Thanks for the reply Mike. It doesn't really matter too much which loco I end up with. The Otto style is probably slightly more preferable, but any one of the Stainz/Otto/Casey locos will do me just fine. Colour doesn't matter as there is going to be a good bit of slashing and repainting going on!
Off to my mother's house shortly to see what I can offer. Will PM you later. Just out of curiosity are you going for UK or European look?
 
Revok

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American! :)

I have previously converted a Stainz and an Otto, simply by opening out the rear and extending the cab and changing the smokestack. Then a few bodywork changes just so they lose their original outline. They wouldn't pass the connoisseur test, but they look fine to me.

Now its time to have another go, and maybe take a bit more time over it!
 
dunnyrail

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American! :)

I have previously converted a Stainz and an Otto, simply by opening out the rear and extending the cab and changing the smokestack. Then a few bodywork changes just so they lose their original outline. They wouldn't pass the connoisseur test, but they look fine to me.

Now its time to have another go, and maybe take a bit more time over it!
So please let us see what you have done, sure someone would give you some pointers of what to try next. For my money a Tender looks good on an 0-4-0, nothing shouts USA more than a USA type of Tender.
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Revok

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Here is a photo of each John, as I say, nothing overly smart or clever, just a few chops and changes to suggest something vaguely old US style. In each case they were done quickly over a couple of days. This time around my plan is to force myself to think about what I'm doing. Then try to do it at least a wee bit more slowly and carefully :)


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I like the one in the first photo most.
 
ebay mike

ebay mike

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Here's my partially completed attempt to produce a Scandinavian influenced version. I was never happy with the Casey having a rear cab opening and no apparent facilities for fuel. I had a Toytrain tender to hand which to my mind made it look a little more convincing.
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playmofire

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Here's my partially completed attempt to produce a Scandinavian influenced version. I was never happy with the Casey having a rear cab opening and no apparent facilities for fuel. I had a Toytrain tender to hand which to my mind made it look a little more convincing.
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That solves the problem nicely, Mike.
 
ebay mike

ebay mike

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That solves the problem nicely, Mike.
Thanks Gordon. I showed it to a 'rivet counter' at the start of my project. All I got was 'but you've duplicated the water storage'. He's not been round since and won't get an invitation when lockdown is lifted. Pity really as I don't get many visitors.
 
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but you've duplicated the water storage'.
So? It still looks the part, some people feel like they have to make a point. You could have told him it was a bootlegger's vehicle, perfect for running dodgy hooch
 
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Thanks Gordon. I showed it to a 'rivet counter' at the start of my project. All I got was 'but you've duplicated the water storage'. He's not been round since and won't get an invitation when lockdown is lifted. Pity really as I don't get many visitors.
Well, maybe it only LOOKS like you've duplicated the water tank; one tank for water and, in Sweden, one tank for brannvin (burn-wine or vodka to you and me).

Oops! posted this before I saw Paul's post. Still great minds and all that.
 
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Jasper

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Revok, I think your Otto needs to use the first tipper for a tender.
 
Revok

Revok

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Revok, I think your Otto needs to use the first tipper for a tender.
Funny enough, I have a tender exactly the same as the one ebay mike shows in a photo earlier in this thread. It gets used for basically every situation where i want to add a tender... but of course the one problem with that is it can't be in two places at the same time :)
 
funandtrains

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Hi all,

Before I take a punt on the likes of Ebay, I thought I'd ask here.

I'm looking for a Stainz / Otto / Casey 0-4-0 type loco. Physical condition doesn't matter too much, the only criterion is that its a decent runner. I'm not after a bargain... happy to pay a fair price for it.
Have you found one? If not I probably can find one.
 
dunnyrail

dunnyrail

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St.Neots Cambridgeshire UK
Here is a photo of each John, as I say, nothing overly smart or clever, just a few chops and changes to suggest something vaguely old US style. In each case they were done quickly over a couple of days. This time around my plan is to force myself to think about what I'm doing. Then try to do it at least a wee bit more slowly and carefully :)


View attachment 269537 View attachment 269538
Interesting use of Plumbing materials for the Smokestack on the first one, useful stuff plumbing solder type joints.
 
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Flying15

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Thanks Gordon. I showed it to a 'rivet counter' at the start of my project. All I got was 'but you've duplicated the water storage'. He's not been round since and won't get an invitation when lockdown is lifted. Pity really as I don't get many visitors.
Just to say there’s a prototype for everything
In Scotland the LNER transferred some J69s to work lightly laid northern branches
The tank locos ran with empty side tanks and tenders from old GER locos to carry the water
 

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