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... LGB R5 points Inlaid to the frog are two metal "plates" that I assume are to support the wheel flanges as they pass on either path through the it.

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Those "plates" are live and allow metal flanges to pick up power, thus improving continuity through what is otherwise quite a long "dead" frog.

You'll find the same thing in some bands of pointwork in the smaller scales, for example look at this N gauge double slip by Minitrix;
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Double slip, double slip, must get a double slip. Apologies to Mr Ben Elton. I likes a doubleslip on my line. This one is a wood sleepered GRS item utilising LGB code 332 rail configured to work with their 6ft radius points and LGB R5's. And there are brass frogs in there like all their other handmade 45 mm gauge brass rail points and crossings they make, but not live ones. GRS stuff can be a bit of a pain if the current buss bars, connecting to the rails, detach from their soldered joints. Bought 2nd hand on GSC sales page a while back. Max

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I still think it's academic - the points are like the rest of us; old and knackered :confused::confused:
 
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The OP's post is an R1? I think you have to cut it out... The R3 I think has a removable frog, as well as the R5... I think the differences are by the conducting strips in the bottom of the wing rail flangeways.

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I still think it's academic - the points are like the rest of us; old and knackered :confused::confused:
No one's going to thank you for pointing that out, but a least we're all live.
 

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No one's going to thank you for pointing that out, but a least we're all live.

What? As opposed to the frog's you mean? :giggle::giggle:

I still think it's academic - the points are like the rest of us; old and knackered :confused::confused:

Now why can 'we' get away with comments like that on this Forum, but I got 'flamed' for a (slightly flippant) introduction of myself, on a different forum? :(:(
 

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What? As opposed to the frog's you mean? :giggle::giggle:



Now why can 'we' get away with comments like that on this Forum, but I got 'flamed' for a (slightly flippant) introduction of myself, on a different forum? :(:(
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What? As opposed to the frog's you mean? :giggle::giggle:



Now why can 'we' get away with comments like that on this Forum, but I got 'flamed' for a (slightly flippant) introduction of myself, on a different forum? :(:(
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Thanks! I was not sure if they were R1 or R3, definitely not R5... I tried to translate the fitting instructions, but my google translation did not really discriminate between "remove" and "cut out" the original frog. I got the part that the new frog might need shimming.

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Oh, the joys of Mr Heyn's live frogs. Been getting to grips with these things on my 009 indoor layout - mandatory with Peco's ubiquitous system. Bit of a culture shock after years of dead ones in the garden. Possibly a pain if you had to have a polarity switcher on every one as DC or a juicer if DCC or mix them up with dead ones on an existing line. But a nice idea for getting those 0-4-0's and track cleaning locos through your switches - an oft heard problem here. Though, if a retrofit, you are still left with the problem of a mismatch in adjoining railhead and wing/check rail heights. So I guess full replacement might be the only option after all on the CFR for those worn points. Max