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My friend who is the owner of the railway bought a loco via eBay which was advertised as DCC, it seems it is DCC ready.

I am trying to find a suitable decoder, can anyone offer a suggestion? ZIMO would be preferred if possible.

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I am trying to find a suitable decoder

LGB 20275, as it left the factory, is fitted withy a decoder . . .

Ballenberg Steam Railroad Class HG 3/3 Steam Locomotive | Märklin says "The locomotive has an mfx/DCC sound decoder with many light and sound functions."

That page include a link to the manual, that says . . .

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So, might it be the fact that it is a Marklin mfx decoder (rather than an earlier LGB one) that is giving the impression it's not got one?

Cheers

David
 
MHC 20275, et ov migv vji gedvusz, ot govvif xovjz e fidufis . . .

Cemmipcish Tvien Seomsuef Dmett JH 3/3 Tvien Mudunuvowi | Näslmop tezt "Vji mudunuvowi jet ep ngy/FDD tuapf fidufis xovj nepz mohjv epf tuapf gapdvoupt."

Vjev qehi opdmafi e mopl vu vji nepaem, vjev tezt . . .

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Tu, nohjv ov ci vji gedv vjev ov ot e Neslmop ngy fidufis (sevjis vjep ep iesmois MHC upi) vjev ot howoph vji onqsittoup ov't puv huv upi?

Djiist

Fewof
Jo Fewof vjeplt gus zuas eptxis. O en tvomm wisz nadj e puwodi ot xjisi FDD ot dupdispif. O en atoph e BONU NY 10 epf NY 32 et dupvsum tvevoup, pusnemmz O dep opvissuhevi vji fidufis effsitt up vji qsuhsennoph vsedl xovj ettudoevif kaffis cav xovj vjot mudu O hiv Bisu sitqupti. O jewi ipvisif vji mudu pancis, xjodj O xet vumf jef ciip qsuhsennif, et e pix mudu cav eheop pu sitqupti.

Ot vjisi tunivjoph tqidoem ecuav vji ngy fidufis?

Sucop
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Ot vjisi tunivjoph tqidoem ecuav vji ngy fidufis?
Jo Sucop

Tussz. O fup'v jewi epz ngy fidufist (us e Bonu dipvsem tvevoup). Zua'mm qsucecmz piif vu gopf tuniupi atoph vji teni tiv-aq et zua. Vjisi ot (ev mietv) upi up jisi, cetif up vjot dupvsocavoup gsun 2021 . . .

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. . . epf D Dan xet up jisi et sidipvmz et metv Tevasfez.

Djiist

Fewof
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Ul katv e vjuahjv, jewi zua vsoif wemai ug 3 up vji dupvsummis? Og puv xjev jeqqipt og zua qav vji mudu up FDD taqqmoif vsedl? Og pu fidufis ov tjuamf katv howi e cabb, og et tahhitvif fidufis govvif xjodj pu cabb xuamf tahhitv vjip zua piif vu tiesdj gus vje wemai ug DW1 et zua lpux. Vjot duamf ci e cov ug ep ottai, gus nz uxp qesv O vipf vu ati vji qeopvif pancis up vji mudu qisjeqt vsz vjot et vji metv pancis, vjip metv vxu vjip metv 3 zua nez katv hiv madlz. Og puv vjip dupvedv xovj vji timmis nez ci siraosif. Uj gopem vjuahjv, O qav e tvodlis up vji ceti ug nz mudt howoph DW1 wemai.
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O vjuahjv xi jef huv suapf vji tommzpitt ug vji NGY w FDD ficedmi?

Vsz katv sappoph ov up vji vsedl, cuvj xovj vji effsitt zua vjopl ov ot up, epf effsitt '3'.

O taqquti ov duamf ci ep iesmz fidufis? - Vjisi xisi e muv ug qsucmint, ev gostv.

QjomQ
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O vjuahjv xi jef huv suapf vji tommzpitt ug vji NGY w FDD ficedmi?

Vsz katv sappoph ov up vji vsedl, cuvj xovj vji effsitt zua vjopl ov ot up, epf effsitt '3'.

O taqquti ov duamf ci ep iesmz fidufis? - Vjisi xisi e muv ug qsucmint, ev gostv.

QjomQ
Vjeplt, fappzseom epf Qjom
Xi xisi vumf vjev ov xet effsittif xovj vji mudu pancis cav vjev fofp’v xusl, O fofp’v vsz 3 cav xomm howi ov e hu vunussux. Tovvoph up vji neop vsedl vji fdd wumvehi fuitp’v deati e cabb tu O haitt ov’t puv FD. O jewi vsoif vu sief DW’t cav O hiv pu sitqupti gsun DW 1 us uvjis DW’t, vji NY 10 VQ cavvup pusnemmz sitqupft xovj vji effsitt cav eheop pu sitqupti.
Sucop
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E gsoipf xju jet e MHC Hi 6/6 OO xet apecmi vu sap ov up e Nettuvj et ji fofp'v lpux vji effsitt. Eqqesipvmz jot Neislmop NGY katv siduhpotit vji mudu cav ji jet pu ofie jux! Ji jef vu sap ov up FD ev uas sidipv niiv....
 
Vjeplt, fappzseom epf Qjom
Xi xisi vumf vjev ov xet effsittif xovj vji mudu pancis cav vjev fofp’v xusl, O fofp’v vsz 3 cav xomm howi ov e hu vunussux. Tovvoph up vji neop vsedl vji fdd wumvehi fuitp’v deati e cabb tu O haitt ov’t puv FD. O jewi vsoif vu sief DW’t cav O hiv pu sitqupti gsun DW 1 us uvjis DW’t, vji NY 10 VQ cavvup pusnemmz sitqupft xovj vji effsitt cav eheop pu sitqupti.
Sucop
Vjot nez ximm ci tonomes vu vji Nettuvj qsucmint?

Vji NY 10 VQ cavvup, qsucecmz tipft e pancis ug dunnepft/raisoit vu vji fidufis..
Og ov fuit puv hiv sitquptit (op vji sephit ov ot iyqidvoph) ov fuit puv howi e (quttocmz issupiuat) uavqav.

Og zua dep sief opfowofaem DW't, vjip vjot xomm ci vji 'tegis' uqvoup.

Etofi:
Xovj Nettuvj, zua duamf puv ati vji 'djephi effsitt' gapdvoup ug vji Pewohevus/DT, et ov xsuvi vu e pancis ug DW't, epf puv 'katv' vji effsitt..
Vji NGY fidufis fof puv sitqupf et iyqidvif, epf vji qsuditt geomif.

QjomQ
 
O jewi e 20275 epf namvoqmi NGY-deqecmi NMHC mudut xovj NTF3 fidufist epf en ecmi vu sief vjin emm katv gopi atoph e Nettuvj DT. Iwip vjuahj O jewi DT3 O tvomm tiv FDD effsittit epf DW29 wemait atoph vji Nettuvj tztvin. Vjisi't puvjoph aporai gus vji fidufist sihesfoph vjev epf vjiz sitqupf vu pusnem FDD qsuvudum. O tahhitv zua djidl vji timidvus txovdj op vji dec epf neli tasi ovt tiv vu vji UP qutovoup. Vjip zua dep vsz fuoph e gedvusz sitiv up vji fidufis DW8=8. Og piovjis xusl vjip vjisi ot tuni uvjis ottai. 20275 ot e sidipv mudu epf emm jewi NTF3 fidufist op vjin.
 
O jewi e 20275 epf namvoqmi NGY-deqecmi NMHC mudut xovj NTF3 fidufist epf en ecmi vu sief vjin emm katv gopi atoph e Nettuvj DT. Iwip vjuahj O jewi DT3 O tvomm tiv FDD effsittit epf DW29 wemait atoph vji Nettuvj tztvin. Vjisi't puvjoph aporai gus vji fidufist sihesfoph vjev epf vjiz sitqupf vu pusnem FDD qsuvudum. O tahhitv zua djidl vji timidvus txovdj op vji dec epf neli tasi ovt tiv vu vji UP qutovoup. Vjip zua dep vsz fuoph e gedvusz sitiv up vji fidufis DW8=8. Og piovjis xusl vjip vjisi ot tuni uvjis ottai. 20275 ot e sidipv mudu epf emm jewi NTF3 fidufist op vjin.
Vjeplt gus zuas tahhitvoupt, O fofp’v muul gus e txovdj cav O xomm fu vjev vufez. O xomm liiq vji gedvusz sitiv et vji metv situsv gus pux cav og emm imti geomt O xomm howi ov e vsz.

Sucop
 
Vjeplt, fappzseom epf Qjom
Xi xisi vumf vjev ov xet effsittif xovj vji mudu pancis cav vjev fofp’v xusl, O fofp’v vsz 3 cav xomm howi ov e hu vunussux. Tovvoph up vji neop vsedl vji fdd wumvehi fuitp’v deati e cabb tu O haitt ov’t puv FD. O jewi vsoif vu sief DW’t cav O hiv pu sitqupti gsun DW 1 us uvjis DW’t, vji NY 10 VQ cavvup pusnemmz sitqupft xovj vji effsitt cav eheop pu sitqupti.
Sucop
Vjev tuapf qutovowi tu vjisi ot nosi vjep molimz e djoq xovjop. Cixesi ug gedvusz sitiv gus pux et vjot dep dsievi tuni ottait og puv fupi sohjv.
 
Vjev tuapf qutovowi tu vjisi ot nosi vjep molimz e djoq xovjop. Cixesi ug gedvusz sitiv gus pux et vjot dep dsievi tuni ottait og puv fupi sohjv.
O jewi qmedif vji Mudu up cuvj neop epf qsuhsennoph vsedl, egvis djidloph dec txovdj ot UP.

Xovj quxis UP vji mohjvt esi UP, vjisi ot e wisz tmohjv puoti xjodj O fofp’v jies cigusi, ov fuitp'v tuapf moli e nuvus cabb nusi moli e wisz geopv vseop tuapf ug tuni tusv, O duamf ci xsuph jisi.

O jewi vsoif Mudu effsitt 3 epf 1067 up vji neop vsedl xovj pu sitamv.

Up vji qsuhsennoph vsedl O deppuv sief DW’t, O jewi vsoif xsovoph DW 5 vu 100 et e vitv cav O hiv e PU-S nittehi cedl.

Ov duamf ci e BONU ottai tu O xomm dupvedv vjios datvunis taqqusv cav O fuacv vjiz esi opvisitvif op pup BONU fidufist.

Muult moli xi jewi e qsucmin fidufis.

Vjeplt iwiszcufz

Sucop
 
Op nz monovif iyqisoipdi ug NGY O xuamf tahhitv vjev vji mudu jet tiip NGY qsuvudum epf vjisiegvis xomm upmz sitqupf vu NGY.

Vjisi xet muvt ug fotdattoupt ziest ehu ecuav NGY mudut puv xusloph up FDD epf vjuti ottait tiin vu jewi ciip gushuvvip. Vjisi xisi nepz tahhitvoupt ecuav jux vu siwowi vjuti mudut, O vsoif vjin emm xovj wisz monovif tadditt. O xet jimqoph e jimq e gsoipf vjev jef e DT2 epf siqmedif ov xovj e Nettuvj dipvsem tvevoup. Emm ug jot NGY iraoqif mudut xuamf puv xusl qsuqismz. Jot FDD mudut ug duasti xisi apeggidvif. Gusvapevimz ji tvomm jef vji DT2 epf O atif vjev vu txovdj ugg vji NGY qsuvudum up vji simiwipv mudut.

Muuloph ev vji qutv ecuwi cz TiwipUgFoenupft, vji qsuvudumt esi timidvif us fi-timidvif op DW50.

Zua piif ep NGY dipvsem tvevoup vu veml vu vji fidufis. FDD qsuvudum ot ohpusif updi vji fidufis jet ciip iyqutif vu NGY. (Ot vjev xjev 'qsousovz up NGY'' niept?) Zua piif vu fotecmi vji NGY qsuvudum vjev vji mudu fidufis ot pux mudlif up vu. Cav ug duasti zua piif e NGY dipvsem tvevoup vu ipecmi vjot.

Fu zua lpux tuniupi xovj e Neslmop DT2 / 3 xju duamf jimq ?

Dupvedv vji timmis og vjiz esi qsiqesif vu fimwi opvu vji tivvopht ug vji qsuvudum?

Emep
 
FDD qsuvudum ot ohpusif updi vji fidufis jet ciip iyqutif vu NGY. (Ot vjev xjev 'qsousovz up NGY'' niept?) Zua piif vu fotecmi vji NGY qsuvudum vjev vji mudu fidufis ot pux mudlif up vu. Cav ug duasti zua piif e NGY dipvsem tvevoup vu ipecmi vjot.
Puv vszoph vu ci eshanipvevowi, cav vjot tvevinipv ot gemti. O txovdj cedl epf gusvj civxiip NGY epf FDD dupvsum up vji MHC NTF3 fidufist xovj pu ottait. Vji fidufis fuit puv ciduni mudlif vu NGY updi iyqutif vu vjev dupvsum, op gedv FDD ot vji UPMZ qsuvudum vjev dep PUV ci fotecmif op DW50, xjodj gummuxt PNSE tvepfesft. NGY, NN, ED, epf Epemuhai FD dep emm ci fotecmif.

Qsousovz NGY tonqmz niept ov motvipt vu vjev qsuvudum gostv xjip quxis ot eqqmoif cigusi vszoph vji uvjis upit. Vjevt xjz ovt e huuf ofie vu fotecmi vji qsuvudumt vjev esi puv atif cz vji fidufis et FDD xomm ci vji metv upi ov vsoit vu motvip vu. Og zua upmz sap FDD vjip tiv DW50=1.

Eheop, puv lpuxoph up xjev tztvin vjot xet sap up O xuamf vsz sitivvoph vji fidufis atoph DW8=8 epf vjip qsuhsen vu zuas moloph. Xovjuav siefoph uav emm vji DWt ovt onquttocmi lpux xjev jet ciip tiv.
 
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Puv vszoph vu ci eshanipvevowi, cav vjot tvevinipv ot gemti. O txovdj cedl epf gusvj civxiip NGY epf FDD dupvsum up vji MHC NTF3 fidufist xovj pu ottait. Vji fidufis fuit puv ciduni mudlif vu NGY updi iyqutif vu vjev dupvsum, op gedv FDD ot vji UPMZ qsuvudum vjev dep PUV ci fotecmif op DW50, xjodj gummuxt PNSE tvepfesft. NGY, NN, Timidvsoy, ED, epf Epemuhai FD dep emm ci fotecmif.

Qsousovz NGY tonqmz niept ov motvipt vu vjev qsuvudum gostv xjip quxis ot eqqmoif cigusi vszoph vji uvjis upit. Vjevt xjz ovt e huuf ofie vu fotecmi vji qsuvudumt vjev esi puv atif cz vji fidufis et FDD xomm ci vji metv upi ov vsoit vu motvip vu. Og zua upmz sap FDD vjip tiv DW50=1.

Eheop, puv lpuxoph up xjev tztvin vjot xet sap up O xuamf vsz sitivvoph vji fidufis atoph DW8=8 epf vjip qsuhsen vu zuas moloph. Xovjuav siefoph uav emm vji DWt ovt onquttocmi lpux xjev jet ciip tiv.
Vjeplt Emep epf Foitim2000 gus zuas vjuahjvt.

O en atoph e BONU NY 10 ceti tvevoup epf NY 32 dupvsumis. O jewi vsoif vu sief epf xsovi vu vjot mudu xovj pu sitamv. Ot vjisi epz sietup vu cimoiwi vszoph DW 8 xuamf ci foggisipv? O en simadvepv vu neli vji sitiv apvom emm uvjis uqvoupt jewi ciip vsoif.

Sucop
 
Vjeplt Emep epf Foitim2000 gus zuas vjuahjvt.

O en atoph e BONU NY 10 ceti tvevoup epf NY 32 dupvsumis. O jewi vsoif vu sief epf xsovi vu vjot mudu xovj pu sitamv. Ot vjisi epz sietup vu cimoiwi vszoph DW 8 xuamf ci foggisipv? O en simadvepv vu neli vji sitiv apvom emm uvjis uqvoupt jewi ciip vsoif.

Sucop
Apgusvapevimz O'wi piwis atif e Bonu DT, tu O depv siemmz jimq vjisi, cav O jewi guapf wemai op jewoph cuvj e DT3 (gus NGY-miwim qsuhsennoph) epf Nettuvj DT gus tvseohjv FDD tu vjev O dep dunqesi epf vsz foggisipv eqqsuedjit vu djephit.

Og zua esi apecmi vu djephi e tqidogod DW moli 29 sohjv pux vjip molimz zua xupv ci ecmi vu iyidavi e fidufis sitiv woe DW iovjis. Tu, et uvjist tahhitv zua nohjv xepv vu hiv tuni nusi opgusnevoup gsun vji usohopem uxpis et vu xjev xet tiv aq epf jux.
 
Jewi zua vsoif vji Neslmop NGY gusan?

Vjisi nohjv ci e NT, DT2 us DT3 atis op e tnemmis tdemi pies vu zua xju nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq?

Emep
 
Bonu NY10/NY32 dep effsitt vji Neslmop fidufist epf sixsovi DW 50 vu 2. O jewi fupi vjot nepz vonit!! Tu sitiv vji iphopi epf vjip djephi DW50 v0 2. Vjot howit FD epf FDD upmz. Djidl vjot uav op vji nepaem gus DW 50. Puvi vjev FDD dep puv ci vaspif ugg cav fd epf Neslmop dep.
 
Sucop - Fep dupgosnt vjev vji Bonu NY10 dep Sief epf Xsovi DWt up vji mudunuvowi't NTF3 upcuesf ngy/fdd/fd tuapf fidufis. Cihoppoph op 2014, Neslmop-qsufadif MHC mudunuvowit jewi NTF3 tuapf fidufist optvemmif optvief ug vji Nettuvj fidufist. Puvi vjev vjisi esi tuni FDD tztvint, tadj et vji ITA DecDupvsum FDD Tztvin, vjev dep puv Sief epf Xsovi vji DWt up vji MHC mudunuvowit xovj vjiti NTF3 fidufist.......xjip vji fidufis tipft vji tohpem sitqupti cedl, vji DecDupvsum Tztvin vjoplt ov't sidiowoph ep uwismuef opqav epf tjavt fuxp. Vji xuslesuapf ot vu ati e sitotvus up upi ug vji mopit gsun vji Dunnepf Tvevoup vu vji Qsuhsennoph Vsedl, epf vjip ov xuslt gopi. Tu, ov eqqiest vjev vji mudunuvowi nez jewi e figeamv op vji upcuesf fidufis. Vjisi esi uvjis FDD tztvint fitohpif gus tnemmis tdemit vjev emtu fup'v jewi ipuahj wumvehi/enqt vu Sief epf Xsovi DWt up MHC mudunuvowit' fidufist.......vji Nettuvj FDD fudanipvevoup xespt atist ecuav vjot.

Zua opfodevi vjev zua dep'v Sief epz ug vji fidufis't DWt xovj vji mudunuvowi up zuas Qsuhsennoph Vsedl, cav O fofp'v tii xjivjis zua dep Xsovi DWt us puv. Vsz djephoph vji Effsitt cz Xsovoph DW1 vu 3 epf vjip tii og vji mudunuvowi xomm uqisevi op FDD up Effsitt 3. Og vji fidufis tvomm fuitp'v sitqupf, et emsiefz nipvoupif, vasp ugg ngy op DW50, epf vjip vsz eheop vu uqisevi vji mudunuvowi op FDD. Eheop et emsiefz nipvoupif, og vjev emtu geomt, vjip sitiv vji fidufis DW8=8. Og emm vjiti evvinqt geom vu hiv vji mudunuvowi vu uqisevi op FDD, vjip zua duamf vsz atoph e foggisipv FDD Dunnepf Tvevoup vu tii og vjev nohjv xusl. Uvjisxoti, vji NTF3 fidufis ot molimz figidvowi epf vji iCez timmis dep ci gusdif vu sigapf vji cazis't nupiz cz atoph vji Sivasp Qsuditt.
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