When are Eneloop not Eneloop?

KeithT

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It seems that you can get Eneloop batteries at much reduced prices even though it does not say Eneloop on the tin!
 
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He does make a rather compelling argument..
 

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I think I'm right that Eneloop led the field in low self discharge technology.

But as they were bought out by Sanyo, then Panasonic, it seems like we're back to British Leyland days when a Morris, Riley, MG, and Austin were all the same with a different badge.

Nowadays, the key is to ensure that you buy LSD (if you're buying NiMh) and I tend to avoid evilbay, preferring to go for the pukka suppliers such as Strikealite or Vapextech :nod::nod::nod:
 

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Slightly off topic, I find IKEA's "ALKALISK" alkaline non-rechargeable cells are excellent value.
 
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Slightly off topic, I find IKEA's "ALKALISK" alkaline non-rechargeable cells are excellent value.
Yerst - while I am an expert in cheap, I'll go for anything going cheep :devil::devil: when it comes to re-chargeables, particularly inside locomotives, I'm always thinking about longevity, usually because it has taken such an effort to cram the mass of wires and gubbins in the body shell first time around, I don't fancy doing it that frequently :smoke::smoke::smoke::smoke:

Then, step in Mr Walsham with his neat installations :tmi::tmi::tmi::tmi: oh it would be so easy :worried::worried:
 

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Committing neatnesses is just something I do. Just like Frank Burns.
Also, it just so happens that neat is more reliable anyway and certainly easier to troubleshoot.
I usually supply Eneloop cells when "AA's" are involved. Sure you can get cheaper LSD cells, but experience has shown me the real ones last longer in terms of run times and longevity. Just don't draw more than 1 amp from them. That certainly does reduce their life span.
 

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Committing neatnesses is just something I do.

It's something I always intend to do ......... :nerd::nerd::nerd::nerd: but it just never seems to work out in practice :emo::emo::emo::emo:
 
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So the theory is that because the cells are made in Japan and have the right MaH capacity that they are Eneloop?

Don't think I'd want to bet on that.

A single capacity test does not make it so, you need to "wear them out" and see if they give the right performance over their lifespan, also, it would be simple to do the obvious test, of the major factor that distinguishes Eneloop batteries, which he does not mention.

Greg
 

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........ also, it would be simple to do the obvious test, of the major factor that distinguishes Eneloop batteries, which he does not mention.

Greg

A little bit cryptic, Greg - what is the "obvious" test, please, because it's not obvious to me? ;)

Jon.
 

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I think Greg is referring to Eneloop batteries being Low Self-Discharge??

Charge 'em up, and measure the voltage, over time..
 

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I think Greg is referring to Eneloop batteries being Low Self-Discharge??

Charge 'em up, and measure the voltage, over time..
Too much like hard work - stick with buying 'em from the reputable people :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:
 
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exactly guys, a little more research before you state the el cheapo are indeed the expensive ones rebranded.

And this guy also had another video on cheap batteries that worked at first but did not last? Exactly one of the tests that he needed to perform.

The topper would indeed have been the self-discharge test, since it is the "claim to fame" of the Eneloop..

Greg