rhaetianfan - 22/11/2009 4:01 PM Keith "Anything exciting on show from Hornby or Bachmann for the world of 4mm ?" Nothing that hadn't been previously announced, but the 4CEP (green, no yellow ends only) is now out and judging by the number of people I saw carrying the bulky boxes, it is finding many takers! Yes, I've bought one and it is very good. The BR Standard class 3 tank is out, but only in black with early crest as far as I could see. I also bought a Heljan class 17 - the latest batch apparently has had the motor problems sorted and it is a nice model. Trade support seemed very good, with quite a bit of LGB in evidence including secondhand (GRS had lots). The whole exhibition was much less of a scrum than the last time I went many years ago, worth the trip (even allowing for delays on the way back caused by a failed train at New Street). M