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NCS from Qbyn

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There are no words to describe what I think about these little turds. It is bad enough having to deal with the effects of natural storms on a garden railway [believe me I know how much that can hurt!] without having to put up with this sort of thing. Unfortunately, these toe rags probably think they are some sort of heroes and I doubt that any punishment that might be meted out to them will change their behaviour to any great extent. It certainly won't help the victims. It is just despicable in every sense.
 
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Unfortunately the chances are that any reasonable employer won't employ them, soooo oo guess who pays twice?
 
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Unfortunately, these toe rags probably think they are some sort of heroes and I doubt that any punishment that might be meted out to them will change their behaviour to any great extent. It certainly won't help the victims. It is just despicable in every sense.
I'm not sure any of us are qualified to judge how other people feel.
 
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On the philosophical note:

I can see a reflection of the world, in the glass-front of my Telly.. :think:

(We never use said telly, since the last set-top box failed.. In fact, SW wants it to go 'top of the drive' today..)
 
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I'm not sure any of us are qualified to judge how other people feel.
I am not judging, merely speculating. It would be interesting [maybe sickening] to be a fly on the wall, if they spoke to their peers about what they had done, beyond earshot of authorities.
I am sure there could be all sorts of reasons behind the actions of these kids, but none is likely to excuse what they did.
I cannot accept any excuse for this sort of behaviour, short of genuine psychotic insanity - ie where the person has truly lost all sense of reality. While psychosis may have been involved, I very much doubt it was.
It seems that vodka did play a part though - and I do NOT believe that being drunk or intoxicated is any excuse whatsoever. That is a reason, not an excuse. Punishment should focus on the hurt caused to the victims - including the psychological impact. This should not be treated as a "slap on the wrist" offence. But it probably will be. As I said, the whole thing is despicable.
 
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"Sorry m'lord, but I woz drunk" is an excuse that should automatically increase the the punishment by 5 years, under the influence of drugs should be 10. But at 15 years old they won't be imprisonedisappointed, so it'll be interesting what the punishment will be. Made to stand at the entrance to next year's show, with a sign round their necks say " it was us" might be a good one
 
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Made to stand at the entrance to next year's show, with a sign round their necks say " it was us" might be a good one
Think of the extra foot-fall, and amount of rotten fruit and veg. :eek::nod::devil::devil:
 
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Think of the extra foot-fall, and amount of rotten fruit and veg. :eek::nod::devil::devil:
I would refer the Honourable Forum Member to my earlier post No.37 in this thread.....

Jon.
 
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I am not judging, merely speculating. It would be interesting [maybe sickening] to be a fly on the wall, if they spoke to their peers about what they had done, beyond earshot of authorities.
I am sure there could be all sorts of reasons behind the actions of these kids, but none is likely to excuse what they did.
I cannot accept any excuse for this sort of behaviour, short of genuine psychotic insanity - ie where the person has truly lost all sense of reality. While psychosis may have been involved, I very much doubt it was.
It seems that vodka did play a part though - and I do NOT believe that being drunk or intoxicated is any excuse whatsoever. That is a reason, not an excuse. Punishment should focus on the hurt caused to the victims - including the psychological impact. This should not be treated as a "slap on the wrist" offence. But it probably will be. As I said, the whole thing is despicable.
Your speculation always seems to assume the worst of them. I'm not making excuses for them, only saying that you cannot assume that they are indifferent to the effect of their actions on others or proud of what they've done. And if they are, then they are in the company of a large number of their elders. I've taken the view in my working life that people will usually live up to (or down to) your expectations of them. You try and encourage them from the latter and towards the former and judge them on the end result.
 
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Your speculation always seems to assume the worst of them. I'm not making excuses for them, only saying that you cannot assume that they are indifferent to the effect of their actions on others or proud of what they've done. And if they are, then they are in the company of a large number of their elders. I've taken the view in my working life that people will usually live up to (or down to) your expectations of them. You try and encourage them from the latter and towards the former and judge them on the end result.
You're right, we don't and probably never will know the full story behind this.
 
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15 years old? Vodka? Somebody has committed the crime of supplying drink to people under the age of 18...
 
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Or they took it from home...
 
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Or got some over age mug to buy it for them, a fairly common occurrence with under aged youfs hanging around offies.
 
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We made our own backyard distillery and used a mate's Hungarian dad's plum wine. He had a whole room stacked with flagons. It was OK as long as he didn't take the 'good stuff'. Never smashed anything though except ourselves. :D
 
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We made our own backyard distillery and used a mate's Hungarian dad's plum wine. He had a whole room stacked with flagons. It was OK as long as he didn't take the 'good stuff'. Never smashed anything though except ourselves. :D
You used your Hungarian friend'save Dad's plums? That sounds a bit painful.:oops::oops:o_O Was it demi-sec
 
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You used your Hungarian friend'save Dad's plums? That sounds a bit painful.:oops::oops:o_O Was it demi-sec
I couldn't say where it fits on the dry~sweet scale but the 'good stuff' which I tried a few times was quite nice however the 'not so good stuff' was pretty rough and the rough flavor lingered after it was made to spirit. :devil:
We never drank the first cup from the still. Tasted like it came from an industrial chemical complex. That was tested in an old car as fuel. Vroom! We ended up mixing lemonade with the rest so it was somewhat drinkable. The enthusiastic experimentation you do when 17 years old. It was more about making a functioning apparatus and laughing at each other as the drop was sampled than getting wasted. I barely drink alcohol, makes my brain soggy. :angel: