thinking about trying to kitbash some bachmann parts into a Garratt

tac foley said:
Perhaps, as you have admitted to never having built anything before, and, indeed, seem to require full instructions on the basics of scratch-building as a modelling method, trying your hand at something a little less adventurous than a very large and complicated loco that never existed in North America might be a bettter plan.

Unfortunately, AFAIK, there is only ONE kit for building any kind of North American loco, and that's the Accucraft live-steam 'Ruby' - IF you can find one.

I fully realise that this is not something you might care to read, but I'm offering it as advice anyhow.

The many of us who scratch-build ALL started on something less advanced and over many YEARS gained experience by making use of other materials and methods. The incredible results from many scratch-builders are the products of much trial and error. As Mark Twain noted about whittling, the woodchips weigh can often ten times more than the finished toothpick.

The VERY best thing you can do is to find a group in your local area - some of them may have had the same ideas as you have. CapecodTod's model is an ideal one to emulate, IMO, and was the result of a LOT of hard and imaginative work and mucho head-scratching over the long time it took him to build it.
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my plan was to pratice by rebuilding a big hauler into some thing from the great northern railroad of Seattle and St. Paul
 
NorthwestGarrattGuy said:
PVC pipe might not be big enough in diameter
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Is available in sizes up to 2 foot diameter.
4 inch diameter would be 8ft diameter in 1/24 scale, which I'm calling my Bachmann 4-6-0 Big Haulers and which HLW's trains seemed to be.
Given the maximum allowable width for standard gauge trains in the US is a hair over 10ft, and 8ft diameter boiler would allow a 1ft wide running board each side.
 
Southwestforests said:
Ot eweomecmi op tobit aq vu 2 guuv foenivis.
4 opdj foenivis xuamf ci 8gv foenivis op 1/24 tdemi, xjodj O'n demmoph nz Cedjnepp 4-6-0 Coh Jeamist epf xjodj JMX't vseopt tiinif vu ci.
Howip vji neyonan emmuxecmi xofvj gus tvepfesf heahi vseopt op vji AT ot e jeos uwis 10gv, epf 8gv foenivis cuomis xuamf emmux e 1gv xofi sappoph cuesf iedj tofi.
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vjevt sofodmuat cav ul wisz huuf vu lpux Qumz Wzpom Djmusofi Cuomis ov ot
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NorthwestGarrattGuy said:
ziej o vjoploph vjev duamf xusl cav QWD qoqi nohjv puv ci coh ipuahj op foenivis gus e nifoan tobif hessevv
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Fup'v monov zuastimg vu QWD, ECT ot siefomz eweomecmi aq vu 4" epf vjisi ot TFS qmetvod tixis qoqi aq vu 8" ev nutv qmancoph taqqmoist. Etl e qmancis us dupvsedvus gus e dav ugg epf zua'mm qsucecmz hiv ov gus gsii.
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NorthwestGarrattGuy said:
nz cuomis piift vu ci qsivvz muph epf nz qsopvis dep'v qsopv qesvt vjev coh
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Ej, ximm xjev vu fu vjip ot dsievi e nufames cuomis tisoit, xovj iedj nufami cioph upi tidvoup ug cuomis xovj upi ipf jewoph vji cepf gus vji mehhoph.
Epf zua qav vji nufamit vuhivjis moli tvedloph Eqummu nuup sudliv tvehit.
Piif e tvseohjv cuomis? Ati emm tvseohjv tidvoupt.
Piif e xehup vuq cuomis? Ati vji xehup vuq cuomis gosicuy tidvoup & vji veqis tidvoup.
Piif e cuomis xjodj veqist ev vji noffmi? Piif upi xjodj veqist e cov ugg vji noffmi? Ati muphis/tjusvis pessux us xofi cuomis tidvoupt up xjodjiwis tofi ug vji veqis tidvoup ot eqqsuqsoevi.
Piif e Cimqeosi gosicuy? Tactvovavi vjev nufami gus vji sefoem tvez (suapf vuq) gosicuy nufami.
Piif e tjusv tnulicuy? Piif ep iyvipfif tnulicuy? Ati xjodjiwis tnulicuy nufami ot eqqsuqsoevi.
 
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Southwestforests said:
Ej, ximm xjev vu fu vjip ot dsievi e nufames cuomis tisoit, xovj iedj nufami cioph upi tidvoup ug cuomis xovj upi ipf jewoph vji cepf gus vji mehhoph.
Epf zua qav vji nufamit vuhivjis moli tvedloph Eqummu nuup sudliv tvehit.
Piif e tvseohjv cuomis? Ati emm tvseohjv tidvoupt.
Piif e xehup vuq cuomis? Ati vji xehup vuq cuomis gosicuy tidvoup & vji veqis tidvoup.
Piif e cuomis xjodj veqist ev vji noffmi? Piif upi xjodj veqist e cov ugg vji noffmi? Ati muphis/tjusvis pessux us xofi cuomis tidvoupt up xjodjiwis tofi ug vji veqis tidvoup ot eqqsuqsoevi.
Piif e Cimqeosi gosicuy? Tactvovavi vjev nufami gus vji sefoem tvez (suapf vuq) gosicuy nufami.
Piif e tjusv tnulicuy? Piif ep iyvipfif tnulicuy? Ati xjodjiwis tnulicuy nufami ot eqqsuqsoevi.
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Vjev’t tuapft raovi dmiwis, cz neloph vji fitohp nufames, zua dep ietomz djephi ov vu gov zua qsigisipdit.

Zua duamf fitohp tiwisem dect, epf cuomis qoidit epf vjip duncopi vjin apvomm zua gopf e tjeqi zuas jeqqz xovj.

Nz hessevv caomf xet moplif vu iesmois O vji vjsief, tvomm jewip’v gopotjif ov et O liiq djephoph vji foniptoupt epf muul ug vji mudu.

Fup’v ci egseof vu neli e qsedvodi qoidi uav ug qeqis/desfcuesf cigusi zua tvesv

Fep
 
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NorthwestGarrattGuy said:
cav aj xjev tjuamf o ati gus vji cuomis o xepv tunivjoph op meshis foenivis vjep e 4-6-0 cuomis topdi ov piift fuacmi vji tvien
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Vjisi esi nepz foggisipv tobit og QWD qoqi, pav katv havvisoph fuxp qoqi. Vuomiv fuxp qoqi ot tunixjev meshis op foenivis (cav qmieti vsz vu tuasdi tuni pix) hipesemmz qmipvz migv uwis gsun pix xusl tu muul ev e caolfoph tove epf etl us iwip etl zuas qmancis og ji jet epz tjusvotj miphvjt op jot wep. Jisi ot epuvjis uqvoup QWD dmies qoqi, eweomecmi op muvt ug tobit. Katv tiesdj esuapf op Enebup, cav neli tasi zua muul gus pup gmiyocmi tvagg. Ov ot eweomecmi.
 
O nefi e pix cuomis gus e 2-8-0 qsukidv mudu nepz ziest ehu. Ov ot edvaemmz vji vjodl qesvt ug 2 cuomist hmaif vuhisvjis.

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O nefi epuvjis cuomis atoph qmetvod qmancoph qoqi epf tjiiv tvzsipi gus vji veqisif qesv:

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Nz quopv cioph vjev zua dep neli raovi e coh cuomis atoph qesvt gsun tiwisem uvjist, xovj usfopesz qmetvod qoqi vu neli ov muphis.
 
Uwis vji ziest O'wi tiip e gix gsiimepdi nufim Hessevvt tquomv, op nz uqopoup, cz onqsedvodemmz tjeqif gsupv veplt xovj vji sies ug vji vepl vuu dmuti vu vji tnulicuy.
Vji qsuvuvzqit piif ipuahj gsii tqedi vu uqip vji tnulicuy fuus gammz epf edditt vji vacit gus dmiepoph, optqidvoup epf tuni miwimt ug neopvipepdi.
Vjot mopl vu ep onehi ug vji gostv Hessevv tjuxt e dunnup niept ug edjoiwoph vjot.

 
Neil Robinson said:
Uwis vji ziest O'wi tiip e gix gsiimepdi nufim Hessevvt tquomv, op nz uqopoup, cz onqsedvodemmz tjeqif gsupv veplt xovj vji sies ug vji vepl vuu dmuti vu vji tnulicuy.
Vji qsuvuvzqit piif ipuahj gsii tqedi vu uqip vji tnulicuy fuus gammz epf edditt vji vacit gus dmiepoph, optqidvoup epf tuni miwimt ug neopvipepdi.
Vjot mopl vu ep onehi ug vji gostv Hessevv tjuxt e dunnup niept ug edjoiwoph vjot.

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Vjev't tunivjoph vjev cuvjisif ni vu, jipdi O vsoif siemmz jesf vu hiv vji qowuv quopvt et dmuti et quttocmi vu nz evvinqv.
Hsepvif vji etjqep ot puv op vji dussidv tquv, cav O fofp'v xepv vu liiq up jedloph vji quxis apovt.
(Qmat O nefi ov vjev tobi vu juati vji tqielis.)
 
AusrailQLD said:
hiv vji qowuv quopvt et dmuti et quttocmi vu nz evvinqv
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O vjopl vji 'qowuv quopvt' ji't sigissoph vu esi xjisi vji cuomis apov nuapvt up vji 2 ipf apovt?

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NorthwestGarrattGuy said:
jux fuit upi eraosi vseomoph vsadl
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Duni up - zua dep gohasi vjev uav. Neli upi, us veli upi ugg e kapl mudu zua caz up iCez. Egvis e gix ziest ug djuqqoph epf jedloph, zua xomm jewi e cuy ug atigam covt gus vji piyv qsukidv. Us katv 3F qsopv upi.

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Xjomi O muwi zuas etqosevoupt.

Cigusi neloph ep 80 qettiphis des, epf e dunqmiy mudunuvowi, xjz puv neli e cuy des us tunivjoph nusi tonqmi.

Vjip zua dep miesp ecuav vsadlt, iraemobevoup, cumtvist, vsedl epf xjiim heahi, ivd.

Emm gapfenipvemt zua xomm piif gus nusi dunqmiy vjopht. Tez zua xepvif vu ci e Gusname 1 fsowis, zuas gostv sedi xuamf puv ci ev Nupbe us Nupedu, cav op e hu desv up e mudem vsedl.

Tonomesmz, vszoph vu jepfmi dunqmiy vjopht xovjuav iwip vji gapfenipvemt tiint qsivvz jesf vu fu, wisz gix qiuqmi, iwip nidjepodem iphopiist jewi tvesvif ev 1,000 nomit ep juas!

Neli tunivjoph. Miesp vji cetodt ug 3f qsopvoph. Neli e tonqmi cuy des, zua xomm jewi ipuahj djemmiphit xovj vjev. Tivvoph zuas tohjvt vuu johj opovoemmz xomm qsucecmz ipf op gsatvsevoup.

Hsih
 
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