HobbitFertang
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Hi, where can I get a replacement bogie (black plastic - 30660.162) for an RhB passenger coach 30510?
RhB passenger coach bogie
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DickyC
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Making the "assumption" that LGB uses the same chassis for the same coach as the current 30693 so you can use the same boggies. which are at the following links and available for 18 Euros. or more ££ from a local dealer.
Truck Frame without Hooks Model train
Truck Frame with Hooks Model train
BUT !! if you can find an old Knacked coach WITHOUT a box (as thats where the value is to some), you might be able to pick one up for £80
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HobbitFertang
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A working fix would be to super glue together then fuse some wire into the framework inside. Will make a good strong fix, don't linger too long with the iron though just enough to get the wire into the plastic.
ebay mike
Retired, but still hoarding. (GOF)
I've got some of that plastic glue that you cure with a UV light which has done wonders with things I didn't think you could mend. Not tried it on LGB's offerings though. Somewhere in the garage I have a huge box of parts that include a selection of bogies. Might organize an expedition if the OP doesn't find a solution to his original request.
HobbitFertang
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Unfortunately, I tried melting a couple of pins to the back of the broken part and the whole thing caught fire and ended as a small pea-sized blob on the workbench having given off some pretty rancid fumes!!
ebay mike
Retired, but still hoarding. (GOF)
Noted. I'll see if I can find anything in the next few days. Can't promise - if you saw the inside of my garage you'd understand better.
So what dis you use?
HobbitFertang
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Thanks Mike
HobbitFertang
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Hi DunnyRail, not sure what you mean
Parkdesigner
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I buy most of my parts from Modell-Land. You can contact them for the entire bogie assembly, or - based on your photo - if you only need one side of the assembly as a replacement, you can order that online:
Drehgestellblende bewegl. Panoramaw RHB 30660-E419 LGB
Drehgestellblende bewegl. Panoramaw RHB 30660-E419 LGB
Sorry finger error, what did you use to make the thing catch fire?
HobbitFertang
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I gently heated the metal pins with a small torch (not to visibly red hot) and laid them onto the plastic which immediately started bubbling and reduced almost to nothingness before my eyes. There was no chance of saving it.
ebay mike
Retired, but still hoarding. (GOF)
Not good news, I'm afraid. Found the box of LGB bogies but none of the type you need. I know there are two more boxes somewhere , but they will be PIKO and Bachmann. Sorry I can't help.
HobbitFertang
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Thanks for taking the time Mike
HobbitFertang
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I'm going to try making a silicone mould of the matching side of the bogie and form a resin copy . . .what could possibly go wrong with that
No no no, a soldering iron as I suggested some posts back would have done the job, never ever use FIRE on plastic or even any model except for perhaps soldering metal, even the never direct but behind joints to fuse solder.
Parkdesigner
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Ok, let me try this again…
I’ve just pulled a spare bogie assemble (tongue, left frame, right frame, and clutch) from a sealed factory bag.
The tongue is stamped 30660.160
The left side frame, when looking at the assembly from above, wheels down, with the clutch up (at top) is 30660.163
The right side frame, when looking at the assembly from above, wheels down, with the clutch up (at top) is 30660.162
A way to tell the two apart is that .163 is designed to pitch/flex about the tongue’s mounting point. It “rocks” when traversing uneven track.
.162 is designed to slide snug onto the mounting point of the tongue.
Based on your photo, the piece you’re looking for should be .163…. but you’ve asked for .162… so I would start with examining the part number stamps on the back of both sides, and confirming which number it is you need?
Note that depending on when the part was made (1990s, 2000s, 2010s) and where - Germany, Hungary, China... the P/N stamp can very in position - but the mould itself remained the same.
In a pinch, you can use a .163 in place of a .162 albeit with some slop.
You CAN force a .162 onto the mount for a .163 - but you will have to shave off the lower boss that is on the underside of the tongue’s mounting point. (There is only one on the assembly - it’s to help guide the “flex” of the side frame when rocking)
Going back to my earlier post above - Modell-land.de is the best place I’ve been able to source parts. Some they list online - some you need to email for.
You can also check with Champex-Linden.
Technically - if it makes sense for you - you can also order from train-li-usa in the states, as they sell the Modell-Land inventory - but you have a longer wait, as they collect part orders, then gang shipments once a month from Germany to US.
(Here is the full assembly from Train-li’s website: LGB-33667-M012 Truck for Glacier Express )
You can also troll eBay (UK, US, and DE) for parts... currently some available in Germany: MTS 82330005 Drehgestell schwarz mit langer Deichsel RhB 3X66X Ersatzteil LGB
I’ve just pulled a spare bogie assemble (tongue, left frame, right frame, and clutch) from a sealed factory bag.
The tongue is stamped 30660.160
The left side frame, when looking at the assembly from above, wheels down, with the clutch up (at top) is 30660.163
The right side frame, when looking at the assembly from above, wheels down, with the clutch up (at top) is 30660.162
A way to tell the two apart is that .163 is designed to pitch/flex about the tongue’s mounting point. It “rocks” when traversing uneven track.
.162 is designed to slide snug onto the mounting point of the tongue.
Based on your photo, the piece you’re looking for should be .163…. but you’ve asked for .162… so I would start with examining the part number stamps on the back of both sides, and confirming which number it is you need?
Note that depending on when the part was made (1990s, 2000s, 2010s) and where - Germany, Hungary, China... the P/N stamp can very in position - but the mould itself remained the same.
In a pinch, you can use a .163 in place of a .162 albeit with some slop.
You CAN force a .162 onto the mount for a .163 - but you will have to shave off the lower boss that is on the underside of the tongue’s mounting point. (There is only one on the assembly - it’s to help guide the “flex” of the side frame when rocking)
Going back to my earlier post above - Modell-land.de is the best place I’ve been able to source parts. Some they list online - some you need to email for.
You can also check with Champex-Linden.
Technically - if it makes sense for you - you can also order from train-li-usa in the states, as they sell the Modell-Land inventory - but you have a longer wait, as they collect part orders, then gang shipments once a month from Germany to US.
(Here is the full assembly from Train-li’s website: LGB-33667-M012 Truck for Glacier Express )
You can also troll eBay (UK, US, and DE) for parts... currently some available in Germany: MTS 82330005 Drehgestell schwarz mit langer Deichsel RhB 3X66X Ersatzteil LGB
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