Regner Else

[Tropic Blunder1]

Hi all, I recently acquired this Regner Else from facebook and it looks to be brand new which is obviously great news for me but its come with no instructions of any kind. I emailed Michael Ragg at Argyle and he said they've never imported one and thus have no documentation on it. has anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty keen to have a go at steaming it up but at the moment i cant even find a way to get water into it short of pulling the whistle valve out of it or pulling the safety valve off.

Regner Else by jgptrains, on Flickr

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[Monty]

Regner Parts and Accessories - gardenrailways.co.uk

Official Regner live steam UK authorised agent. We stock Train sets, Locomotives, Coaches, Wagons, Track, Line side models and parts and accessories by Regner, Accucraft, LGB, Piko, Pola,etc. We also have a selection of Modelling Tools.

www.gardenrailways.co.uk

Did a quick search and this UK site may be able to help as I cannot find a direct link to Regner.

Have been advised that any info may need to be translated but I don’t really know.

When some of the other usual crowd come on line later they will probably be able to help.

carry on,

Monty

 

[Paul M]

Try Garden Garden railways in Bishops Stortford, England:
graham@gardenrailways.co.uk

 

[dunnyrail]

Hi all, I recently acquired this Regner Else from facebook and it looks to be brand new which is obviously great news for me but its come with no instructions of any kind. I emailed Michael Ragg at Argyle and he said they've never imported one and thus have no documentation on it. has anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty keen to have a go at steaming it up but at the moment i cant even find a way to get water into it short of pulling the whistle valve out of it or pulling the safety valve off.

Regner Else by jgptrains, on Flickr

Thanks

Safety Valve out is a pretty normal route for filling the boiler. Use a syringe till water comes out of the top the. Remove 30-40ml so that there is somewhere for steam to go to. Steam Oil goes in what looks like the Westinghouse pump at the right front of the boiler, the knob sets the amount of flow of oil. Close this completely then open perhaps 1/2 to a full of a turn to get the oil flowing. After your first run on wooden blocks check to see how much used, if not a lot may need opening a little more for the next run. Gas will go in via a valve in the gas tank, Butane only. You may have difficulty gassing the beast, Reiner Gas Valves are notorious for this and a replacement from an iMP otter may be needed. Hope that helps some.

 

[Tropic Blunder1]

Thanks everyone. I read the manual for the lumberjack and pull the safety valve out. I need to put some mesh around the boiler and tighten up a few steam leaks but its all looking promising. thanks!

 

[funandtrains]

All the Regner piston valve 0-4-0 locos use the same chassis and boiler and are quite simple to run, similar to the older basic Accucraft, Pearce or Merlin locos. They are very to to run. The only thing to be careful of is the brass boiler - don't use acidic water and never use descaler in the boiler, Regner actually recommend adding a small amount of tap water to the distilled water to coat the inside of the boiler with a protective layer of lime!

 

[Alpineandy]

With regard to water I use the condensed water from the tumble dryer or dehumidifier. You can use rain water but it needs to be filtered.
Garden Railways is goto in the UK for anything Regner. He should be able to help. Don't forget the steam oil............

 

[JimmyB]

I also use dehumidifier or CLEAN rain water, but always filter using a coffee filter paper (a new one each time )

 

[dunnyrail]

With regard to water I use the condensed water from the tumble dryer or dehumidifier. You can use rain water but it needs to be filtered.
Garden Railways is goto in the UK for anything Regner. He should be able to help. Don't forget the steam oil............

Not entirely convinced about the condensed water from the tumble dryer, can any from the washing get into it? If so you are possibly using some hard water. Best not to take the risk

 

[Paul M]

Rain water filtered through 2 coffee filters for me. I collect rai water in a special pot, not from a water butt

 

[dunnyrail]

Rain water filtered through 2 coffee filters for me. I collect rai water in a special pot, not from a water butt

That sounds like a pretty good solution, I use the Water from my dehumidifier. Just have it turned on when wet washing being dried.

 

[JimmyB]

Rain water filtered through 2 coffee filters for me. I collect rai water in a special pot, not from a water butt

Paul, why my emphasis on CLEAN rain water, and regardless of the source I always filter before decanting into my filler bottle.

 

[dunnyrail]

Paul, why my emphasis on CLEAN rain water, and regardless of the source I always filter before decanting into my filler bottle.

Glad you raised the rainwater issue again Jimmy, I have worries about this on reflection. Acidity in the rain may not be the best thing to introduce to live steam. For my part I reckon having expended near or in many cases well over a grand UK for a live steam engine getting the right water should be a priority. A dehumidifier is really the only option to be sure, chemists so called de humidified has doubtful properties and certainly any tapwater may have chalk or other chemicals to keep it drinkable even in a soft water area.

 

[JimmyB]

Glad you raised the rainwater issue again Jimmy, I have worries about this on reflection. Acidity in the rain may not be the best thing to introduce to live steam. For my part I reckon having expended near or in many cases well over a grand UK for a live steam engine getting the right water should be a priority. A dehumidifier is really the only option to be sure, chemists so called de humidified has doubtful properties and certainly any tapwater may have chalk or other chemicals to keep it drinkable even in a soft water area.

And NOT de-ionized water, water should preferably be distilled i.e. the steam droplets once condensated, though there are other methods (don't wish to get into a discussion). If you (not you dunnyrail ) do not know the difference Wikipedia will provide answers a lot more concise and more accurate than mine. Good clean rain water is a second choice, at your own peril.

 

[dunnyrail]

And NOT de-ionized water, water should preferably be distilled i.e. the steam droplets once condensated, though there are other methods (don't wish to get into a discussion). If you (not you dunnyrail ) do not know the difference Wikipedia will provide answers a lot more concise and more accurate than mine. Good clean rain water is a second choice, at your own peril.

Yes agree Jimmy, forgot that horror of de-ionized stuff. Certainly a good NOT from you.

 

[Greg Elmassian]

Interesting, here in the US, distilled water can cause issues, due to it's tendency to "pull" metal ions from the solder in the boiler.

"soft" water seems to be the desired water, since it does not try to eat solder.

Don't want to start a pissing match, you can go to one of the US forums and argue with them ha ha!

Greg

 

[Paul M]

pissing

That probably won't do your loco any good either

 

[JimmyB]

Don't want to start a pissing match, you can go to one of the US forums and argue with them ha ha!

Greg

And NOT de-ionized water, water should preferably be distilled i.e. the steam droplets once condensated, though there are other methods (don't wish to get into a discussion).

Greg, agreed, though I think I put it more eloquently

 

[casey jones snr]

I’ve used thrice filtered rain water for many many years. I’ve never had a problem with it in any of my locomotives.

 

[tac foley]

Where DunnyRail and I live, the rainwater seems to be full either of the Sahara Desert, the Gobi Desert, or the Steppes. When it rains, the detritus left on your car could be gathered up and use to plant desert flowers.

many moons ago I bought a small - 4.5l - desktop distiller unit, as found in many small laboratories. Next time I use it, I'll post you what comes out of our Anglian Water ['love every drop'] pipes, left in the bottom of the tank....

You'll either laff, or be horrified.

I do ALL my locomotive water TWICE.