R1 Y Point

[funandtrains]

Heyn produce an R1 Y point but the price is very expensive then you have to get it from Germany.

 

[duncan1_9_8_4]

Heyn produce an R1 Y point but the price is very expensive then you have to get it from Germany.

Yeah, I found it this afternoon, I'm just wondering how it would integrate into my railway, with the metal frogs etc. There's also no pictures....

 

[funandtrains]

Yeah, I found it this afternoon, I'm just wondering how it would integrate into my railway, with the metal frogs etc. There's also no pictures....

I assume it is similar to the R0 and R2 versions. You would have to use insulated rail joiners on the inner rail ends as the whole frog changes polarity.

 

[PhilP]

I assume it is similar to the R0 and R2 versions. You would have to use insulated rail joiners on the inner rail ends as the whole frog changes polarity.

But only if you wire it up to a switch?

PhilP.

 

[Zerogee]

See the frog discussions on the previous page of this thread.... particularly my post no.20.

There should be no power to the frog unless you opt to wire it up, as per Phil's comment above!

Jon.

 

[duncan1_9_8_4]

Wondering now if I can manipulate a R1 corner, given it would only be for such as a Stainz and 4 wheel coaches. More resembling a R0 corner which I have had success with elsewhere on the layout. Or Flexi track.

 

[Zerogee]

Well, that would probably be the cheapest solution!

Can you borrow a railbender to get the curve smooth? The better it is done, the less running problems you're likely to have.

Jon.

 

[funandtrains]

But only if you wire it up to a switch?

PhilP.

It says to use their switch on the website.

 

[duncan1_9_8_4]

Well, that would probably be the cheapest solution!

Can you borrow a railbender to get the curve smooth? The better it is done, the less running problems you're likely to have.

Jon.

Hmmmmm. Brut force.....

 

[dunnyrail]

In fact looking at the points from Heyn, they appear to do a R1 Y. But the frogs looks different, as in all brass. Are Heyn points designed for non track power, as they would surely cause a short circuit?

Not sure about how the frog works, but as you are using EPL motors, use if the electrical switch and isolations either side of the frog will allow it to be non shorting when changed.

 

[maxi-model]

I'm not sure why the GRS R1 offering appears to be being avoided here. GRS hand built track works with regular track powered kit, look at how the frogs are isolated on the picture of the double slip I posted. It will be a straight fit, ok it's 24 inch radius not 24.0157 inches that an LGB R1 is. Same costruction on that code 250 R1, as with all the other GRS made I have, never had a short, wheel or skate pick ups. Does it come down to price ? Yes, £145 built not kit, is not cheap (+ an extra RH R1 point if you do not have in stock) but when you look at Heyn's at €145, and this is the kit price, and then you need to add shipping and import duty. Built it is €280 +. All that is left is can GRS do it as a code 332 ? Well, unless there is an issue making it with that tight radius and rail code, then yes. If not adaptors can fix the rail height issue.

Problem with a rail bender produced solution is that most benders do not bend the rail to the very end, you might have a small staight transition at each end. Then you have to produce a decent transtional curve in between in a very small section, will it work geometrically and not cause derailments ? You are looking at all up around £200 for an Xmas neighbour pleasing feature. That's your choice, I have committed far worse extravagances I will admit. Like the whole garden railway. I look forward to seeing the results and smiles on all the kids faces