Ox Mountain Railway

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That stock looks quite at home - could this be a changing trend on the Ox Mountain Railway?

Rik
Naw - it's just a sideline:)
 
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So, continuing from post 978, I thought I'd try something else (just in case I did not manage to get the L&B carriage repaired).

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I even posed the L&B one on the tail of the train (before I swapped the wheels back to the 25mm ones)

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So, I'm a little hesitant to run the three TTT coaches but, all being well, I'll have the L&B one fettled thanks to Maxi, Rhino, and GRS. Oh, and a bit of effort from me.

Continuing on a simulated Irish narrow gauge theme, I found my Castlederg & Victoria Bridge items -
here is the train running on track power .....

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and then on battery power .....

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The track power pick-up is the van with a 2-pin plug from the loco. When first built, the loco picked up power via its own wheels but, as I made them from aluminium, after a few weeks the wheels became poor at conducting so I made the van. Then I found that the short wheelbase van didn't like the R1 pomts in the trailer so I built an open truck to carry a battery pack - four AA cells - and some timber packing cases to disquise the pack ......

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The on/off switch pokes through the packing case and is just start or stop.

To be further continued....
 
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Some very nice trains, there, Mick, and great photos. The L&B with the TTT coaches looks really good.
 
trammayo

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Some very nice trains, there, Mick, and great photos. The L&B with the TTT coaches looks really good.
I'll take the three coaches just in case!

First, a pic showing the Meccano battery box in the truck .....

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and then minor mod (centre of pic) to switch on the battery power for the railbus ....

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And a close up of the simple motor and drive

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Then it was time to put it on the track and test!

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So it worked OK - nice and steady and easy for me to push the protruding wire inwards to stop it.

Then it was time to open the two little bags from GRS. I was looking forward to this as I thought it was as simple 'push the ventilator bases into the pre-drilled holes in the roof and glue the top into the bases'.

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On the left is the base and the one on the right is the top of the ventilator. Both pieces are showing their undersides.

Well, there's nowt like getting it wrong is there? Firstly, the base would not allow itself to be inserted into the hole - so that's six holes to enlarge. Secondly the top wouldn't mate up either. Both items need the surplus plastic trimming off and, as that needs a sharp knife, I had to prove it. Yes the knife was sharp as it slipped on the very hard plastic and dug into the end of a finger :banghead:. So that made me have a cup of coffee (and two shortbread biscuits).

The grass is now ready for cutting again - if it wasn't for the bad luck I wouldn't have much at all:(. Unfortunately, I remembered to get some more petrol last week!
 
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Well, I persevered with trimming the surplus plastic off the ventilators and had to enlarge the holes in the carriage roof to allow the bases to be located. MekPak was used to glue things together ......

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So, with vents done, the next job is to make some steps ......

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..... as the other end doesn't have any!

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Before I embark on making some more steps, I decided to get the other coach out to see what was missing on that one!

Well one end was OK (as regards steps) ......

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but guard's end was defficient .....

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There's one step complete, and one shortened! .......

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Whilst handling the carriage I noticed I could see gaps around the Duckets. The vacuun formed items could be removed! So now I have a way forward for the shortening process! Anyway, acquiring at least five steps (buying or making), will be a step in the right direction!
 
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I'll take the three coaches just in case!

First, a pic showing the Meccano battery box in the truck .....

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and then minor mod (centre of pic) to switch on the battery power for the railbus ....

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And a close up of the simple motor and drive

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Then it was time to put it on the track and test!

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So it worked OK - nice and steady and easy for me to push the protruding wire inwards to stop it.

Then it was time to open the two little bags from GRS. I was looking forward to this as I thought it was as simple 'push the ventilator bases into the pre-drilled holes in the roof and glue the top into the bases'.

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On the left is the base and the one on the right is the top of the ventilator. Both pieces are showing their undersides.

Well, there's nowt like getting it wrong is there? Firstly, the base would not allow itself to be inserted into the hole - so that's six holes to enlarge. Secondly the top wouldn't mate up either. Both items need the surplus plastic trimming off and, as that needs a sharp knife, I had to prove it. Yes the knife was sharp as it slipped on the very hard plastic and dug into the end of a finger :banghead:. So that made me have a cup of coffee (and two shortbread biscuits).

The grass is now ready for cutting again - if it wasn't for the bad luck I wouldn't have much at all:(. Unfortunately, I remembered to get some more petrol last week!
Both of your Battery Conversions are simplicity itself. Sure you will get to like the no Track cleaning option and go for more.
 
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Both of your Battery Conversions are simplicity itself. Sure you will get to like the no Track cleaning option and go for more.
I've too much track powered stuff really :banghead: To operate more than one train at a time, I'd really want R/C - but there'd be a tech problem for sure (for me!).
 
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Just come in from starting to make some steps .....

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I cut them from some plastic angle. Now all five are in a vice and sporting a metal bracket each. I'm using Gorilla Glue so it takes time to set properly. Then it'll be out with a rattle can and, hopefully they'll be mounted on the Southern coach tomorrow afternoon!
 
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Just come in from starting to make some steps .....

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I cut them from some plastic angle. Now all five are in a vice and sporting a metal bracket each. I'm using Gorilla Glue so it takes time to set properly. Then it'll be out with a rattle can and, hopefully they'll be mounted on the Southern coach tomorrow afternoon!
Which part of the gorilla gets melted down?
 
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Mick wait till you get the GRS instruction sheets I sent you with the Annie chassis. All will become clear and the possiblities for modification will multiply. They have a quite specific modular construction and ordering. Get it wrong and you could end up with frustratingly uneven length sides. Yes the duckets are vac forms that are glued to modified coach side modules.

Those vents - was it molding "flash" or did it seem the 1/2's of the molds were not quite mated up correctly. I had to do some work to correct that fault on mine, some 12 years ago. Max
 
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Mick wait till you get the GRS instruction sheets I sent you with the Annie chassis. All will become clear and the possiblities for modification will multiply. They have a quite specific modular construction and ordering. Get it wrong and you could end up with frustratingly uneven length sides. Yes the duckets are vac forms that are glued to modified coach side modules.

Those vents - was it molding "flash" or did it seem the 1/2's of the molds were not quite mated up correctly. I had to do some work to correct that fault on mine, some 12 years ago. Max
Hi Max - blooming moulding flash. At least on the second attempt at cutting off I didn't create any more blood samples!

I have the diagrams - thank you very much - and I will peruse them but I think I've found a way forward (or backwards in this case of shortening :). The sun's out now - weed clearing (as in burning) is the next thing for me now. I will have a look after tea (especially if my better half rings her sister!).
 
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Well, I persevered with trimming the surplus plastic off the ventilators and had to enlarge the holes in the carriage roof to allow the bases to be located. MekPak was used to glue things together ......

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So, with vents done, the next job is to make some steps ......

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..... as the other end doesn't have any!

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Before I embark on making some more steps, I decided to get the other coach out to see what was missing on that one!

Well one end was OK (as regards steps) ......

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but guard's end was defficient .....

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There's one step complete, and one shortened! .......

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Whilst handling the carriage I noticed I could see gaps around the Duckets. The vacuun formed items could be removed! So now I have a way forward for the shortening process! Anyway, acquiring at least five steps (buying or making), will be a step in the right direction!
Actually, five steps in the right direction. :)
 
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The glue had set by this morning so it was a quick blather with some matt black .....
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Then on with my morning chores before turning the steps over to give another blast of paint. The metalwork, crude in its' entirety, was fashioned from a piece of nominal 1mm steel wire ex S.W.A cabled. New holes were needed to allow a reasonable fit and medium (as in viscosity) superglue was used to secure them. Once the glue had gone off, I found some matt black brush apply paint and painted both ends of the carriage.....

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The paint was still drying but that didn't matter as long as I picked it up by the sides. Talking of sides, the next job will be to make the footboards. The other carriage as as some bright mild steel one (10mm x 1mm I think) but, that may not be available in this part of the world! ...

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There will be four end brackets and six intermediate ones to make (good old steel wire armoured cable!).
The footboards may end up being made of wood.

Whilst examining the sides, I became more aware of a anomaly in the side panels. The rear goods/luggage compartment side pieces were shorter than the rest!!!

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The distortion is partly due to my (lack of) photographic skills! The long coach also suffers the same (amongst other things)......

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I'm going to dispose of luggage compartment in my proposed rebuild...

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I'm hoping to cut out the 2 1/2 "solid" panels, Then cut out the single width glazed ones, move the double width (at the rear) glazed one up to the door on the left and fit a vertical glazing bar, then fit the doors currently near the back. The singled glazed panel will then go to the back.

Confused? I know I will be!
 
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Just to give a better idea .....

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A good day's work, Mick, but, sadly, apparently another day or more's work discovered.
 
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A good day's work, Mick, but, sadly, apparently another day or more's work discovered.
Unfortunately, it's self propagating!

Well I got my sums wrong - the shorter carriage only needs five brackets per side. Some more wire, and the "rak at'ee" or in proper English, the rake of the eye! I could have made a former but life's too short.

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The other five side brackets are fitted and supporting a hardwood footboard....

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So now I'm waiting for Gorilla glue to set.