LGB Queen Mary Caboose

[electricity_bill]

Hello

I have just acquired an LGB Queen Mary Series caboose. The box says it is No 42710 but I can’t trace that on my LGB products website. However, there is a series of these cabooses (46710, 47710 and 48710 which are virtually identical).


I need a couple of spares :-

1. The outside chimney stack
2. The imitation light which fits on the outside of the centre cupola.

Does anybody know a suitable source for these parts?


Bill

 

[playmofire]

Is this it?

http://www.onlytrains.com/model/trains/42710.html

 

[electricity_bill]

Is this it?

http://www.onlytrains.com/model/trains/42710.html

That's the same model and the same missing parts.

 

[playmofire]

If you browse through here, there are a number of chimeyt stacks and at least one red light glass, which may do the turn.


http://www.modell-land.de/caboose-40710-40750-40790-c-527_264_352.html

 

[electricity_bill]

Thanks but that is the wrong caboose series.

 

[playmofire]

Thanks but that is the wrong caboose series.

Yes, but looking at the photos of the Queen Mary and the other types of caboose I wonder if the parts you want are common to both.

 

[electricity_bill]

Yes, but looking at the photos of the Queen Mary and the other types of caboose I wonder if the parts you want are common to both.

Sadly no. They are different.
Bill

 

[minimans]

Those parts were loose in a bag when I got my SF ltd edition one, they are still in the bag 20 years later!!

 

[electricity_bill]

Those parts were loose in a bag when I got my SF ltd edition one, they are still in the bag 20 years later!!

You don't want to sell them do you?
Bill

 

[gnm109]

LGB was never consistent about the use of the Queen Mary designation. Originally I had thought that it was a slightly different, more detailed line of cars. Over the years I've acquired a string of the LGGB 47160 two-bay covered hopper cars. Some of them came in Queen Mary boxes and were built in West Germany, making them pre-1989. Others came in regular boxes without mention of Queen Mary. Some of those were built in West Germany and others were marked "Made in US". I was not aware that LGB ever built cars in the US.

It's not surprising that the OP here is having trouble finding parts for LGB. They are difficult to find. Time for some kitbashing.

 

[playmofire]

LGB was never consistent about the use of the Queen Mary designation. Originally I had thought that it was a slightly different, more detailed line of cars. Over the years I've acquired a string of the LGGB 47160 two-bay covered hopper cars. Some of them came in Queen Mary boxes and were built in West Germany, making them pre-1989. Others came in regular boxes without mention of Queen Mary. Some of those were built in West Germany and others were marked "Made in US". I was not aware that LGB ever built cars in the US.

It's not surprising that the OP here is having trouble finding parts for LGB. They are difficult to find. Time for some kitbashing.

So did the Queen Mary range use standard parts from similar items in the LGB range?

 

[electricity_bill]

Unfortunately, I have forgotten who is was that I was taking to about the exploded view of the caboose. It arrived today and many thanks to the sender.
Bill

 

[stevedenver]

update....they have all you need at train li. just checked-under lgb repair parts freight cars!
disregard my ramblings below.


The QM, Its the same as the four axel wpy caboose.

Stack is large, to accomodate an lgb 18 v smoke unit. Optional, but intended.
I compared the 4065 and the QM stacks. ......big difference in the base diameter which needs to fit over/around the tube protruding from the roof. I DO think, one could find tubing, and, then attach the smaller 4065, if that's the only option. WHile the caboose is in current production from marklin, I find parts difficult to obtain.

As for the cupola light, i have used an amber 3mm led . i did not flatten the end, but one could i think. I used a round disc under the base of the LED to give it a similar look to the stock dummy.

Another not very thoughtful option might be either a large thick sprue of clear from something, cut to fit, or, buying some clear solid tubing for arcitectural models and some tamaya clear orange paint.

I run the led, a blinker, straight off a 1.5 AA, mebbee two. Its been years since i installed it. I also drilled the rear end duumy lights and inserted lgb 5v reds. Runs in series off a 9 v, but today id go red led. Have to say, the end lights, lighted look great.

You may have to find a tube, angle the bottom to the roof, and cap with a tee top. Or, buy a 4065 style and see if it might " do". Good luck

 

[gnm109]

So did the Queen Mary range use standard parts from similar items in the LGB range?

I just saw your question. I can't answer for all of the Queen Mary series since the main ones I have are the 47160 Two Bay Covered Hoppers which are a favorite of mine. INonetheless, the Queen Mary hoppers and the regular ones are identical and are all extremely well detailed.

 

[Fred Mills]

Same parts as the White Pass Caboose.....I have one sitting here...Only the White Pass ever had a caboose like that one. If I rememer, correctly, it was paired with a Diesel Locomotive, in black, lettered for the same railroad....it was in the special issue for one year of the Queen Mary LS Show.....
Fred Mills

 

[Fred Mills]

The LGB North American style two bay hopper cars are modelled after an "East Broad Top RR narrow gauge car". A few of these hopper cars were sold to various narrow gauge railroads, as second hand equipment, and are used for ballast service. The White Pass may have a few, and the Colorado NG lines have a few also.
LGB has always felt free to letter its equipment for any railroad that might attract a toy train purchaser.
For anyone who cares, it is best to do a bit of research, before purchasing, if they want authentic equipment for their model railroad. The information is out there, and rather easy to find. The "Queen Mary" caboose, and this two bay hopper car, are just two examples.
Fred Mills

 

[Fred Mills]

I'm just waiting to see if LGB letters their "NEW" $4000.00 rotary" for the RGS, White Pass, or D&RGW, to try to sell one or two to unsuspecting toy train collectors...!!!
Are we having fun yet ?
Fr.Fred

 

[dunnyrail]

Interesting that LGB coined the name of Queen Mary for these Cabooses. The name actually was coined for the SR Bogie Brake Vans which were developed for Fast Goods Trains. I think that you will agree the only similarity is that they are Bogied vehicles.

Link to UK site explaining about QM Vehicles and some more detail of the British versions.

http://www.semgonline.com/vandw/brakevans04.html

Certainly a case of a British Name being coined for something from the US rather than the other way round though this time presumably done by the Germans. Oh how we weave a complex thread around our Model Railways.

Oh hope you get your missing bits OK.

 

[Fred Mills]

The "Queen Mary" name for this LGB line came from the then Annual Train Show, held on the old ocean liner, Queen Mary, grouned out on the "Left Coast" of the USofA.
Those were the "Good Old Days"...even if one was not an LGB collector...although I never attended one of those shows, or have ever stood on a beach in California, USofA.. much later, by at least 10 years; I acquired an LGB Queen Mary Caboose, at a quarter the price originally charged for it... with the box, which I used for starting a warming fire in the fireplace.!!!
Fr.Fred

 

[Fred Mills]

If a person, had the space, and a real "Guards'/brake" van like that was available, it could make a great cabin, with outdoor all weather seating...along with space for a BBQ grill...
I wonder if any were preserved for this ?
Fr.Fred