Indeed, the post is blank, deleted and the pages arend on FB anymore.Someone created the template for their own use, and (I think) it got offered on here??
It is not a 'commercially' created / distributed template, to my knowledge..
Indeed, the post is blank, deleted and the pages arend on FB anymore.Someone created the template for their own use, and (I think) it got offered on here??
It is not a 'commercially' created / distributed template, to my knowledge..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You can program them with your Massoth equipment..
BUT,
It is not a Massoth decoder, so things are not where 'we' expect, and certain 'nice to have' features on the Massoth, do not work because of this.
Case in point being changing the address:
The 'change address' feature on the Massoth system, changes more than just the address 'value', this is why it fails to a MFX decoder.. As long as you are aware of this, and change the individual CV's, then no problem.
I think it is more a case of it being 'different', having a lot more features (though Massoth are catching up, a little), so things are not where we expect them to be.
We are all so familiar with the way we have 'always' done it, change is hard.
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I've read on the Marklin Website that their Mfx decoder has three technologies embedded: Mfx; DCC; and Analog. Mfx is not NMRA DCC protocol compliant, and that's why Marklin recommends to "turn off" the Analog settings to prevent potential conflicts. Conversely, I've also read someplace, don't remember where, that we USA DCC users should turn off the mfx protocols. I'm getting my repaired LGB 27443 50th Anniversary RhB Railway GE 4/4 Electric Locomotive back from the Germany store I bought it........the front Pantagram didn't work and they sent it to Marklin for repair. Does anyone know what CVs to set to turn off the mfx elements of the decoder so only DCC activates?
I really appreciate all the valuable info. I sure am learning a lot and I hope others are too. It is sure nice for you all to share your experiences with it. You sure are a wonderful group to chat with. I have been playing and learning the LGB & Massoth decoders for the last 5 years and I am still learning. I am very excited to finally have the confidence to start trying to learn programming the MFX. Just an FYI, my equipment is a Massoth Navigator paired to a Piko Central Station.
I can't see why you couldn't change those CVs to have "sound under DC" with any DCC command station. Let me have a go.A few more point's about the Marklin mfx decoder technology. Researching their Website data and a couple LGB/Marklin Owners Instructions indicates the Marklin mfx decoders installed in their LGB locomotives are designed with three electrical technologies: mfx; dcc; and dc. Marklin states there can be operating conflicts between these three, therefore some (if not all) of their locos, like the LGB 28443 RhB LGB 50th Anniversary edition, are shipped from the factory with the Analog sound turned off, to help prevent operating conflicts with the mfx and/or dcc modes. In fact, the Marklin literature suggests not activating any of the Analog mode CVs if you only operate in mfx or dcc power. I also recently bought an LGB 20274 Heidi RhB steamer from a Germany LGB shop and the Owners Instructions also states the sound is deactivated for DC powered operations but the CV setting can be changed to activate. But I've gotten mixed responses from various large scale forums whether DCC equipment, such as my Massoth system, can activate the CV for DC sound on these decoders or not, or whether you must use Marklin's CS3 Central Station to do it. LGB's USA rep told me a Marklin system is required to do it. I haven't found anyone that's said they have been able to do it with DCC system. Since I only use a DCC power it's not an issue for me, but since 80% of USA hobbyist still use only DC powered layouts, it is for them.
My final point is that I read on one of the four large scale forums I belong to that it's recommended to "turn off" the mfx functions on a locomotive if one uses a DCC system, to help prevent CV programming conflicts between the decoder's three different technologies...….makes sense to me. For example, some guidance from my new LGB 20274 loco's Owner's Instructions states: "Digital Operations: The decoders are multi-protocol and can be used under the following protocol: mfx or DCC. The digital protocol with the most possibilities is the highest order digital protocol. The sequence in descending order is: Priority 1: mfx; Priority 2: DCC; Priority 3: DC. Note: Digital protocols can influence each other. For trouble-free operation, we recommend deactivating those digital protocols not needed by using CV50." To deactivate the mfx functions and only use the DCC features on the decoder the Owner's Instructions CV Tables indicate: CV50 Alternative Formats: Bit 1: Analog DC; Range 0/2. Bit 3: mfx off/on; Range 0/8. Default = 10.
But so far I've run the Heidi steamer on my Massoth system with no operational or sound problems, and it does have a pulse smoke unit including a smoke exhaust hole of the bottom of each piston...….works great. I think the problem may be when you try to change these decoder CV settings with DCC equipment while the mfx technology is still active. So, as long as I don't encounter any operating problems with these two LGB/Marklin locos with the mfx decoders installed, I may just leave the factory settings "as is" using the sage advice from a quality management guru, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"!