LGB 24450 RhB Ge2/4 No 221

[jonothan]

Hi Guys

I bought this loco from Tim at Arcadia on Saturday. I noticed that the steps under the right hand cab door (under the non-working door on the model) seem to be missing on both sides. Is this correct? Does anyone else own one of these?

Thanks

Jonothan

 

[Deleted member 4232]

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[jonothan]

This should answer your question ...RhB Ge 2/4 Electric Locomotive | Märklin

Thanks, John.

Strangely enough, it doesn't really answer my question, because I looked on Ebay before starting this thread and found photos of a model just like mine. The photo you've linked to on the LGB website is a pre-production model. I am looking for more first hand experience of this production run.

 

[stockers]

Just been looking at various pictures on Google. The original LGB brochure piccy does seem to show steps. More recent pictures by retailers dont show them.
Just as an example - P&S hobbies.
https://www.pshobbiesandmodelshop.c...e353c42017b430a49c3bb60cee6.image.243x182.jpg

 

[phils2um]

The one I've got does not have steps. Perhaps the right side doors were welded shut in the 1950's rebuild on the original? I'll check for some photos on the RhB web site.

Phil S.

 

[phils2um]

Could not quickly find a photo of 221 but 222 shows up about 2 minutes into the "Bahnparade in Pontresina von 09.06.2018" on YouTube. It does have steps at both ends of the locomotive. The RhB roster shows that 221 was retired in 1998.

Phil S.

 

[phils2um]

Well my speculation about welded doors was just that! I did find a photo of 221 as rebuilt. It still had doors and steps on both sides of each cab. Now I'm wondering why Märklin started leaving them off.

Phil S.

 

[PaulRhB]

Looks like a mistake by LGB as they should be there right up to withdrawal

https://flic.kr/p/otFMEC

I guess they figured as the door is moulded shut it didn’t need steps! Funny they put the handrails on though
Try asking the shop to get spares.

 

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[jonothan]

I think I’ve found the answer. If you look at the earlier prototypes, they have tanks/cylinders under the main body at each end on both sides which the earlier models have as well. In the modified prototype 221 and 222, those on the right of each side are missing as they were presumably redundant. So they’ve been omitted on the production model LGB 24450 too. They weren’t omitted on the preproduction models. I think that, in the model, the steps are secured by a tab underneath the tank/cylinder do they have been omitted from the model too. Does this make sense?

 

[DougLN]

I brought a 2nd hand one at GRS in 1995 ( it was 2045 ref then). Mine has cab steps at both ends/sides. It still runs very well.

 

[jonothan]

I just looked at the 2018 catalogue...

 

[mole]

I just looked at the 2018 catalogue...

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[mole]

The two models I have of that loco the one shown in the pictures and the lighter brown one with the signature on the doors have steps on both ends

 

[phils2um]

My 24450 has steps at both ends - as of about three weeks ago. Thanks John, for suggesting the spares! The steps mount quite easily.

The position for the steps is precisely fixed by locators moulded into the chassis, pic 1. (The two holes seen photo 1 are a result of my attaching the steps; they were not there originally.) The steps were put in place, then I drilled two pilot holes through both the steps and chassis, pic 2. The pilot holes in the steps were enlarged to through holes and the steps secured with two screws, pic 3.

1) 2) 3)

Pic 4 below shows the complete job. I did fix the whistle after I took the shot!.



Phil S.