Installing LGB Container Wagon Wheel Set Control Kit

idlemarvel

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The coupling rod kits arrived yesterday and I had some time today to fit one to my LGB 41841 RhB baggage car, which was the "worst offender" when it came to running on R1 due to its very long wheelbase (252mm).

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The wheels easily misalign if there is nothing behind the baggage car to straighten the coupling/axle to it tends to be dragged kicking and screaming around tight bends.

The kits came nicely packaged with each of the three sets I ordered in their own packets. Instructions are provided in German only.
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There is a YouTube video on the website but it only shows the simple case where no holes need to be drilled. It took a bit of puzzling and pondering to decide a plan, nevertheless it only took about 15 minutes with the following tools, hand drill with 2mm bit, cross head screwdriver and some pliars.

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This is the set I installed today:

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You get a threaded brass rod, two locking nuts, two brackets that fasten to the axles, two clamps to attach the brass rod to the brackets, and four screws to hold the brackets in place on the axles.

First job is to mark the position of the holes for the screws to hold the brackets in place. Use the brackets as a template and drill a 2mm hole. I used a finger twist drill rather than a power tool to avoid accidental damage.

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Now fit the clamps to the brackets. Use pliars or similar to open the jaws of the clamp, and to close them again.

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Screw the first bracket in place. You'll find it easier to fit the other end of you remove the wheels first:

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Finished. You can adjust the distance by twisting the rod between your fingers. Once you are happy the axles are aligned you can tighten the locking nuts.


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Finally the test. You can perhaps see even though the baggage car is at the end of the train the wheels are alighned to the curve.

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The end result is excellent. The baggage car no longer drags, it runs much more quietly and with less effort from the loco, and the couplings align better for shunting purposes. Hopefully the other kits will similarly improve the other problem wagons, but on the basis of this exercise I can thoroughly recommend these coupling kits.
 

Bill Barnwell

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Seen this version and another that was plastic and I can see that it would work in a tight turn and probably help but what happens in a "S" curve?
 

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Seen this version and another that was plastic and I can see that it would work in a tight turn and probably help but what happens in a "S" curve?
Interesting point, tug of war?
 

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I don't have an s-curve on my layout but I'll see if I can put a test track together. I imagine it would just "average out" the effect of the axles turning.
 

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Hello Dave and other g scale maniacs (joking of course),
just joined this forum.
thanks for positive feedback to my coupling rods (sorry could not find any better word for it). I offer them since roughly 5 years from now and there should be around more than 3500 sets in the field now. I appreciate going in the english speaking market since 2 years, thus I`m pretty known around the german folks already.
I offer coupling rod sets for all 2 axle g-scale models, but to be honest, the problem increases with the distance of the the axles, in deed the conversion Dave described shows the worst one, because of maximum axle distance.
Let me just post one more thing.......the main important thing is to adjust the length of the rod in this way, that, by pulling on both coupling rods, the LGB connectors(so called bottle openers) ARE PARALLEL. If any problem occurs during operation , check this one again (happened to me as well) . The best way to check the function of the rods is to convert 3-5 coaches an let them run on the track. First of all you will hear the difference. No more scratching, but running as smooth as 8 wheeler wagons. Also the pushing of a train is much more effective.
Feel free to order some more, also check other useful things on my page, such as switch repair set, just to mention one of it.
best regards
Bernd
 
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idlemarvel

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Maniacs is one of the kinder words used to describe us! :)
 

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The only two axle car I have is the LGB Bobber caboose. Do these work with the LGB Track cleaning pad attachment 50050 installed? I doubt it but would be nice if they did.
 

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The only two axle car I have is the LGB Bobber caboose. Do these work with the LGB Track cleaning pad attachment 50050 installed? I doubt it but would be nice if they did.
I have one of these wagons which I have modernised to look more European by using a different roof and painted yellow for my MoW fleet.

My intention was to fit a 50050 cleaner underneath, but as this vehicle has side boards along the chassis, it can't be done.... thumbnail_20200530_191613.jpg
 

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I removed the side boards and have the pad attachment mounted to the bottom of the bobber as per the instructions.
 

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I removed the side boards and have the pad attachment mounted to the bottom of the bobber as per the instructions.
I wanted to keep the side boards on my caboose.

Shame really, as it was to become a Rail Grinder Unit. I might see if I can fit a sanding block underneath....
 

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Now adding my two pennyworth. I ordered a selection of kits from Bernd Betz for a variety of RhB and Austrian wagons (19 in total), although the main concern was the badly behaved RhB container cars (particularly the Coop cars).

Ordering was easy although he doesnt take cards; but my bank (Barclays) seems to pay euro OK. No customs/duty problems.

I'm halfway through the upgrade process. Dave's instructions above are excellent. When I first looked at my RhB high side gondola, I thought ït wouldn't work due to the gear under the wagon; but German engineering wins the day; fits perfectly.

I also noted that the brass rods are nicely flexible as I struggled with a RhB goods van.

Many thanks to Bernd for this (reasonably priced) upgrade.