Roundhouse have asked for suggestions. Here is the link; http://www.roundhouse-eng.com/
Ive still gone for the Sharpe Stewart , Southwold 2-4-0's with a suggestion about an alternative cab for the Fowlergarrymartin said:Well at least they are asking our community what we would like , which has to be a good move. Need to think about this now .
minimans said:I just want a Pannier Tank in LT livery..............Please...................
Moonraker said:I just had to vote for a K1.
Peter
funandtrains said:
Why not buy the Aster version?
Trouble is I have had a play with the Aster one and if you think a Ruby is a bit of a runaway the aster was rocket propelled! I like my Roundhouse Loco's because they are slow and sedate runners which is how I like them. I dare say I could work and fettle the Aster one to work for me but I must confess I would much rather buy something that works as it's supposed to instead of me doing the job for the manufacturer! So maybe accucraft could do the deed for me?funandtrains said:Roundhouse aren't exactly known for making true to scale models and I can't see them making a standard gauge loco. The unused Aster versions often seem to sell for between £750 and £1000, less than most new Roundhouse locos. From what I've seen about half the Aster locos ever sold have never been steamed or only had a test run and then put into a display cabinet so there are plenty of like new models that come up much less than the new price. If you don't like meths it is quite simple to fit a ceramic gas burner in place of the meths burner.minimans said:funandtrains said:
Why not buy the Aster version?
Coz it's not right, the colour is wrong and it's Meth's and want gas and the Aster one's are way more expensive than I wish to pay for a used Loco...........................
You could always by a Bachmann brassworks electric model which has been on sale quite cheaply and replace the electrics with a steam motor and gas boiler as you seem you have a reasonable workshop available to you.
GlenF said:I think they should release some of their live steamers as battery-electric versions. To keep costs down they could use a lot of the same bits - frames, wheels, rods, bodywork etc - but install a fake boiler and cylinders and stick an electric motor inside. They would give us a nice range of British outline RTR electric locos for a similar price to new LGB European stuff. And if you ever wanted to convert it to live steam in the future then you'll just need to buy the necessary bits!
funandtrains said:minimans said:Trouble is I have had a play with the Aster one and if you think a Ruby is a bit of a runaway the aster was rocket propelled! I like my Roundhouse Loco's because they are slow and sedate runners which is how I like them. I dare say I could work and fettle the Aster one to work for me but I must confess I would much rather buy something that works as it's supposed to instead of me doing the job for the manufacturer! So maybe accucraft could do the deed for me?funandtrains said:Roundhouse aren't exactly known for making true to scale models and I can't see them making a standard gauge loco. The unused Aster versions often seem to sell for between £750 and £1000, less than most new Roundhouse locos. From what I've seen about half the Aster locos ever sold have never been steamed or only had a test run and then put into a display cabinet so there are plenty of like new models that come up much less than the new price. If you don't like meths it is quite simple to fit a ceramic gas burner in place of the meths burner.minimans said:funandtrains said:
Why not buy the Aster version?
Coz it's not right, the colour is wrong and it's Meth's and want gas and the Aster one's are way more expensive than I wish to pay for a used Loco...........................
You could always by a Bachmann brassworks electric model which has been on sale quite cheaply and replace the electrics with a steam motor and gas boiler as you seem you have a reasonable workshop available to you.
Sadly the Japanese like to run their live steam locos flat out as fast as possible and they forget that others prefer scale speeds.
Ferrysteam said:Don't forget,it's got to be affordable.
tagorton said:GlenF said:I think they should release some of their live steamers as battery-electric versions. To keep costs down they could use a lot of the same bits - frames, wheels, rods, bodywork etc - but install a fake boiler and cylinders and stick an electric motor inside. They would give us a nice range of British outline RTR electric locos for a similar price to new LGB European stuff. And if you ever wanted to convert it to live steam in the future then you'll just need to buy the necessary bits!
Really? Do you think this would sell? I cannot see this. If one was purchasing an electric loco then surely it would need to be at least as detailed as the Bachmann double Fairlie ? and they had to knock those out cheap because they didn't sell. The Roundhouse locos are a rubber scale pastiche of the real thing, acceptable only because they are live steam and can be improved by the purchaser. Best bet would be to buy the Accucraft IoM electric locos and stock if one wants British outline electric. These models are fairly accurate at 1:20.3 scale and would make a nice electric garden railway.
GlenF said:tagorton said:GlenF said:I think they should release some of their live steamers as battery-electric versions. To keep costs down they could use a lot of the same bits - frames, wheels, rods, bodywork etc - but install a fake boiler and cylinders and stick an electric motor inside. They would give us a nice range of British outline RTR electric locos for a similar price to new LGB European stuff. And if you ever wanted to convert it to live steam in the future then you'll just need to buy the necessary bits!
Really? Do you think this would sell? I cannot see this. If one was purchasing an electric loco then surely it would need to be at least as detailed as the Bachmann double Fairlie ? and they had to knock those out cheap because they didn't sell. The Roundhouse locos are a rubber scale pastiche of the real thing, acceptable only because they are live steam and can be improved by the purchaser. Best bet would be to buy the Accucraft IoM electric locos and stock if one wants British outline electric. These models are fairly accurate at 1:20.3 scale and would make a nice electric garden railway.
Interesting points Tag, to be honest I really have no idea if they would sell or not. But I think it deserves some further thought and discussion. But why do electric locos have to necessarily be more detailed than live steam? In fact I would have thought that finely detailed scale equipment would actually be a liability in the rough and tumble world of outdoor garden railways, especially as most of us go by the 8ft rule anyway.
If this project was to suceed then the pricing would have to be right. After giving it some more thought this probably means forgotting all about batteries and RC and fancy sound systems and going straight to simple track power. This would obviously rule out 32mm users so the project would have to be aimed squarely at the 45mm LGB crowd, a huge potential worldwide market. You could even include LGB-style couplers on the locos.
The electric locos from Accucraft and Bachmann Brassworks are all very nice but aimed at a fairly small section of the hobby. If they're looking for a larger audience then Accucraft should consider releasing some of their basic live steamers in track-power electric form. If they can sell a live steam Lawley for 650 then surely a 450 electric version is doable? In other words about the same price as a new LGB Spreewald.
It would be interesting to hear what others think of this (crazy?) idea. I guess we won't know the true answer until some brave manufactuer actually decides to give it a try. Anyone interested in a track-powered Bertie for 300 quid??!