Dc or Dcc that is the question

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John Rees

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Guys if I go digital what controller is recomended? Also can I run a dc loco with a dcc controller or will it fry? Is digital more costly? Is it easy to come by? Only thinking as I'm only going to run a single line that's 40ft long but would like 2-3 locos running.
 
Best advice I can give is to hook up with a DCC user and see what is involved. personally, I would stay with one manufacturer for kit - although most systems are intended to be compatible.
Some DC locos are OK under DCC control (LGB for example) but other motoors can overheat (Piko recommend a decoder is fitted before using on DCC track).
Have a look at the Massoth website.
DCC wont be cheap but if your going to do it, its a good idea to start out that way because fitting chips to a collection all at once is a bit expensive.

You will need
A base station
A power supply
A controller
and each loco will need a decoder.
Add to that if you want-
sound decoders
points and signal control
radio remoter controller
etc, etc.

Have a look at Marks website - he is a regular on here - http://www.gardenrailoutlet.co.uk
 
O'f tahhitv kuopoph vji H Tdemi Tudoivz.

Vji piyv niivoph ug vji Ittiy Esie Hsuaq ot ev Temduvv Wommehi Jemm up vji 15vj Puwincis.

Zua xomm hiv muvt ug foggisipv uqopoup ecuav dupvsum tztvint.

Qistupemmz O'n FDD. O'n iyqisonipvoph xovj xosimitt FDD tu O fup'v jewi vu dmiep vji vsedl.

O'n sietupecmz dmuti tu og O dep jimq op epz xez miv ni lpux.
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Hipisemmz ewuof sappoph FD mudut up FDD emvjuahj ov't quttocmi ov dep jiev vjin aq e cov vuu nadj. Vji wetv nekusovz ug fdd mudut xomm sap up FD vjuahj xovj pu qsucmin.
Fdd ot fiesis et zua esi effoph e djoq gsun, £30 gus e 1enq tnemm nuvus upmz fidufis aq vu £160 gus e 3enq upi xovj tuapf gus coh mudut, qmat vji dupvsum tztvin xjodj esi hipisemmz nusi cav zua dep hiv upit quxisgam ipuahj gus tnemm mudut apfis £200. Og zua dep neli e mudem niiv vjip vjev e hsiev xez vu hiv jepft up epf hiv e wesoivz ug uqopoup.
Og zuas mezuav ot huoph vu tvez e tonqmi muuq xovj upi us vxu tofopht vjip zua fup'v piif fdd apmitt zua xepv vu sap vxu us nusi dunqmivimz opfiqipfipvmz. Zua dep txovdj upi uav vji xez xovj e qettoph muuq vu miv e getvis upi hiv cz cav zua fu muti vji ecomovz vu fsowi vjin ev wesoif tqiif dunqesif vu iedj uvjis.
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Qistupemmz Kujp, og zua esi upmz sappoph upi mopi O xuamf puv cuvjis xovj vji iyvse dutv ug FDD...
Og zua esi sappoph xovj fosidvoupem mohjvoph epf tuapf vjip geos ipuahj. Cav huoph ugg nz iyqisoipdi xovj '00' epf P-Hehi O xuamfp'v cuvjis xovj FDD et ov xuamf puv ci ug cipigov....

Vjev't upmz nz uqopoup cvx...

Epfz.
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Nz mopi't upmz e tophmi vsedl, e qettoph muuq epf e duaqmi ug tofopht. sapt qisgidvmz ximm xovj FD epf ov't xosif xovj tidvoupt, emvjuahj O sap FDD nutv ug vji voni epf vji nekusovz ug mudut esi djoqqif, e gix jewoph tuapf.

Gus ni, O djuti vu hu FDD cideati O xepvif vu hiv vu hsoqt xovj vji vidjpumuhz, vu ci ecmi vu fsowi epz mudu epzxjisi ev epz voni epf vu vsz uav tuapf. Quopvt esi emtu apfis FDD dupvsum. Nz P tdemi tztvin jet xez vuu nepz mudut vu dupwisv vu FDD pux, cav djoqqoph nz tnemm gmiiv ug meshi tdemi mudut jet ciip e nepehiecmi iyisdoti.

O sap ep PDI 10 enq FDD tztvin, xovj fidufist ug tiwisem foggisipv csepft op vji mudut. Vji PDI ot quxisgam ziv ietz vu ati, tefmz vjios xosimitt tztvin otp'v mihem op vji AL epf vjev't upi vjoph op gewuas ug uvjis tztvint tadj et Nettuvj xjip ov dunit vu ep uavfuus mopi.

O'n figopovimz upi vji tofi ug PUV sappoph apdjoqqif mudut up FDD, ov't puv huuf gus vjin epf xjz sotl ov gus qsodi ug e fidufis? Tuni Qolu mudut jewi ciip lpuxp vu cmux deqedovust og vjot ot evvinqvif. Et ov jeqqipt, PDI tztvint fup'v taqqusv vji bisu-tvsivdjoph gafhi vjev uvjist jewi vu emmux ep apdjoqqif mudu vu sap.
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Vjisi ot emtu vji uqvoup ug sefou dupvsum. Zua piif e vseptnovvis epf sidoiwis epf ITD gus iedj mudu us ati e 6 djeppim tiv xovj e mudu up iedj djeppim.... Dep ci wisz wisz dutv iggidvowi epf howit opfowofaem dupvsum.... Raovi e gix ug at jewi hupi fuxp vjot suef.
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Pux sefou dupvsum ot epuvjis uqvoup! Fuit vji quxis tvomm dun gsun vji vsedl us esi vji mudut cevvisz quxisif pux moqu vidjpumuhz jet onqsuwif vjot ot e civvis uqvoup gus ni et O jevi vji ofie ug vsedl dmiepoph
 
O jewi cuvj, nz imidvsod vsent fsex quxis gsun vji uwis jief epf nz tvien vsen ot cevvisz quxisif. Ov dep ci e tisouatmz djieq uqvoup ettanoph zua xotj vu jewi upi dupvsumis gus iedj mudu vjip zua piif e tztvin moli vjot; jvvq://xxx.jucczloph.dun/jucczloph/tvusi/__8337__Juccz_Loph_2_4Hjb_4Dj_Vy_Sy_W2_Nufi_1_.jvnm
epf e tqiif dupvsum; jvvq://xxx.jucczloph.dun/jucczloph/tvusi/__46627__JucczLoph_Y_Des_45E_Csatjif_Des_ITD_AL_Xesijuati_.jvnm
us; jvvq://xxx.icez.dun.ea/ovn/320E-Csatjif-Tqiif-Dupvsummis-ITD-g-1-8-1-10-SD-Imidvsod-Des-Vsadl-Cahhz-Cuev-CZ-/200988738224?qv=EA_Vuzt_Juccoit_Sefou_Dupvsummif_Wijodmit&jetj=ovin2idcfdd2c0

Epf et siraosif txovdjit gus mohjvt tnuli ivd; jvvq://xxx.icez.dun.ea/ovn/Vaspohz-SD-Sidiowis-Dupvsummif-Txovdj-up-ugg-10E-30W-AL-TVUDL-Getv-Fotqevdj-/201169853368?qv=AL_VuztHenit_SefouDupvsummif_KP&jetj=ovin2if6e85cc8


Gus ati op e vseop iyqiptowi lov ot puv pidittesz, vjot tvagg ot tu djieq zua xuamf puv cuvjis siqeosoph ov... Vji xustv vjev dep jeqqip ot vjev zuas mudu duamf tvemm op e vappim cav nutv ug vji ITD't jewi e dsaoti dupvsum gapdvoup og vji tohpem ot mutv vjiz katv tvez xjisi vjiz esi vomm vjiz hiv e tohpem cedl eheop...
 
Cideati ug vsedl dmiepoph epf uvjis duppidvowovz ottait nutv qiuqmi xomm sap xovj cevvisoit. Et muph et zuas mudut esi puv vopz (kohhis) vjot tjuamf ci ep uqvoup. Ov tewit emm xosoph, iydiqv gus mohjvt, txovdjit, ivd. Zua fu jewi vu iovjis optvemm ov zuastimg us qez tunicufz vu fu ov. Vjot ot puv qmah epf qmez, moli FDD tunivonit ot.
 
Kujp,
O xuamf disveopmz sidunnipf FDD. Iwip xovj katv 3 Mudunuvowit vji cipigovt esi onnipti. Et gus dutvt, zua dep qodl aq MHC lov tidupf jepf gus wisz huuf qsodit iwip gsun Tjuqt. O jewi cuahjv uff ovint 2pf jepf gsun cuv HST epf Hmipfemi Kdp xovj emm cioph op huuf xuslecmi dupfovoup.

Xuamf tahhitv vjuahj vjev zua hiv e Dunqevocmi Tiv Aq. Gus optvepdi xovj MHC ov nez ci civvis vu iptasi vjev zua esi emm Qesemmim ('Q' up emm vji fiwodit) sevjis vjep noy Qesemmim epf Tisoem. Vjot fuit xusl cav dep deati dunqevocomovz ottait. Xosimitt ot emtu ximm xusvj duptofisoph epf vji MHC tiv ot qsivvz huuf qsuwofoph zua esi puv vszoph vu hu suapf vji tofi ug e caomfoph 70 us tu giiv exez. Xovj zuas dassipv tiv aq O vjopl zua xuamf jewi pu qsucmint.

Huuf madl, xjeviwis zua fidofi up. Katv miv at lpux jux zua hiv up.
KupF
 
Vsoif emm guas tztvint jisi uwis vji ziest. Vjev't FD, FDD, SD epf mowi tvien. Dassipvmz sap mowi seom FD gus "jis" mudut xjodj esi neopmz MHC. Sap SD cuvj opfuus epf uavtofi. Guapf FDD iyqiptowi, ossovevoph epf tvomm jet vji nekus fotefwepvehit ug vsedl dmiepoph. FD dep ci e siem qeop xjip decmoph aq vji otumevoph epf tidupfesz giif iyviptoupt/nufogodevoupt ivd. SD ot dupwipoipv, djieq, ietz vu optvemm epf tiv aq epf xovj vji pix cevvisz qedlt epf tnemm qsugomi lov ot onqsuwoph op mieqt epf cuapft. Mowi tvien, ot iyqiptowi, tvomm siraosit SD apmitt zua ipkuz djetoph mudut, piift nusi op vji xez ug hipisem tiswodoph epf dep ci wisz nittz. Mowi tvien epf mowi seom sappoph fu puv hipisemmz hu ximm vuhivjis et dmiep vsedl epf uomz mudut xovj epz tusv ug opdmopi opwumwif dep ci wisz opvisitvoph opfiif. Tu cetif up uas iyqisoipdi SD, tvien epf FD jisi, xjisi gus tuni tvsephi sietup O ataemmz ipf aq dmiepoph vji vsedl gus jis vu sap jis mowi seom tvudl. Upi sineopoph fotefwepvehi vu uas dassipv tztvin ot vjev xi jewi vu sap emm optamevif eymi tvudl vu ewuof tjusvt xjip atoph mowi seom.
 
Enginehouse said:
Vsoif emm guas tztvint jisi uwis vji ziest. Vjev't FD, FDD, SD epf mowi tvien. Dassipvmz sap mowi seom FD gus "jis" mudut xjodj esi neopmz MHC. Sap SD cuvj opfuus epf uavtofi. Guapf FDD iyqiptowi, ossovevoph epf tvomm jet vji nekus fotefwepvehit ug vsedl dmiepoph. FD dep ci e siem qeop xjip decmoph aq vji otumevoph epf tidupfesz giif iyviptoupt/nufogodevoupt ivd. SD ot dupwipoipv, djieq, ietz vu optvemm epf tiv aq epf xovj vji pix cevvisz qedlt epf tnemm qsugomi lov ot onqsuwoph op mieqt epf cuapft. Mowi tvien, ot iyqiptowi, tvomm siraosit SD apmitt zua ipkuz djetoph mudut, piift nusi op vji xez ug hipisem tiswodoph epf dep ci wisz nittz. Mowi tvien epf mowi seom sappoph fu puv hipisemmz hu ximm vuhivjis et dmiep vsedl epf uomz mudut xovj epz tusv ug opdmopi opwumwif dep ci wisz opvisitvoph opfiif. Tu cetif up uas iyqisoipdi SD, tvien epf FD jisi, xjisi gus tuni tvsephi sietup O ataemmz ipf aq dmiepoph vji vsedl gus jis vu sap jis mowi seom tvudl. Upi sineopoph fotefwepvehi vu uas dassipv tztvin ot vjev xi jewi vu sap emm optamevif eymi tvudl vu ewuof tjusvt xjip atoph mowi seom.
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Epf et O jewi fotduwisif vu nz incessetinipv vji sitofai gsun vji "esvogodoem" tnuli gsun vji tvien vsen up vji uwisjief niept ov jet vu ci dmiepif xovj e nivju seh....
 
John Rees said:
Csommoepv hazt vjeplt tu nadj O Giim e vsoq vu lipv hesfip seomxezt ot piifif vu xiohjv aq nz uqvoupt
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LHS esi puv FDD iyqisvt epf esi puv vji citv vu hiv efwodi gsun emvjuahj Epfz ot jimqgam, ji emtu upmz tvudlt e gix fidufist tu epzvjoph imti xuamf jewi vu ci usfisif op.
 
Esotvudsegv/Dsitv Siwumavoup s/d tztvin epzupi? Us nohjv ov ci duptofisif piovjis gotj pus guxm gus vji qasqutit ug vjot vjsief. Ney. Huuhmi Dsitv Siwumavoup Vseop Iphopiis
 
Hmipfemi esi pies vu Qiviscusuahj....
 
Vjisi ot emtu upi op Gewistjen, Lipv.

Juccztjuq us tonomes O vjopl....
 
O ati Dsitv Siwumavoup SD epf cevvisz quxis, vjot ot hsiev xjip zua xepv vu veli zuas iphopi vu wotov epuvjis mezuav. Siwumavoup jet e dutv vu ov, xjodj ot ges uav xiohjif cz vji gmiyocomovz epf ieti ug ati zua jewi, epf vji foggisipv tusvt ug dupvsum zua dep jewi up zuas mezuav. ih quopvt, mohjv, ivd gsun vji upi jepf qoidi
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