wandgrudd
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yes but wasn't it like £30 before and now £15 thus still a surcharge over MDF but much less than before?
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yes but wasn't it like £30 before and now £15 thus still a surcharge over MDF but much less than before?
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Ashover coaches seem to be like London buses - you wait ages and a couple come along together
Houston Gate have just announced one as well
Houston Gate have just announced one as well
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Hi,
Technically no. At present, we have a extra charge per kit for Plywood aka a existing surcharge. This varies between £20 and £30 per kit. The change means that across the whole range this is now only £15 therefore a price drop. I hope that makes sense.
Jon
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Sadly Plywood costs between 25% and 100% more depending on the project than MDF to use and importantly depending on what material thicknesses we use. It also has a higher machine time to produce. Therefore, it sadly has to cost more. Although the circumstances and the way the business is run have changed recently (can't say more than that), we still have to charge more. As we get into the swing of things and the way we operate is streamlined further, the surcharge might be able to do dropped even further.and plywood makes sense
Jon
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
We've known about the HGLW one for a while since we announced ours back in January. Its not a issue as both products have their own unique selling points so I can see a place on the market for both!Ashover coaches seem to be like London buses - you wait ages and a couple come along together
Houston Gate have just announced one as well
Jon
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Time for the latest reveals!
Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 1001 in 16mm scale, SAR Wagons in 16mm scale and Bowaters Pulp Wagons in 7/8ths scale!
First up, Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 1001! This completes our Chattenden Range and what a coach to complete it with! Available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges, this coach is the perfect item for those modelling a wide range of areas. Priced at just £85 in MDF or £100 in Plywood. It's available for preorder for collection at Peterborough as with all our new announcements made before the 16th of March.
Now it’s the turn of something larger! Our brand new 7/8ths Bowaters Wagons! Available when we visit the Railway later in the year, the range marks our entry into the world of 7/8ths. Available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges, these kits will be the perfect item for those people looking for a larger wagon for their railways. Available in both Pulp wagon and Flat wagon forms. Price to be confirmed at a later date. The first two will be on the stand at Peterborough so come and see them for yourselves!
With work on our Class 91 progressing well, it only seems appropriate to have some suitable rolling stock for it! Our brand new C and B wagons are the perfect addition to this loco. Both wagons will be available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges in both MDF and Plywood. The perfect addition for NG15s and NGG16s. Priced at £75 each in MDF and £90 each in Plywood, these wagons will be available later in the year along with some other SAR projects. We’re aiming for July/August. In fact, we’ve just green-lighted the prototyping of our Apple Express coaches which will be released at the same time as these!
Come and see them both for yourself at Peterborough!
Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 1001 in 16mm scale, SAR Wagons in 16mm scale and Bowaters Pulp Wagons in 7/8ths scale!
First up, Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 1001! This completes our Chattenden Range and what a coach to complete it with! Available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges, this coach is the perfect item for those modelling a wide range of areas. Priced at just £85 in MDF or £100 in Plywood. It's available for preorder for collection at Peterborough as with all our new announcements made before the 16th of March.
Now it’s the turn of something larger! Our brand new 7/8ths Bowaters Wagons! Available when we visit the Railway later in the year, the range marks our entry into the world of 7/8ths. Available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges, these kits will be the perfect item for those people looking for a larger wagon for their railways. Available in both Pulp wagon and Flat wagon forms. Price to be confirmed at a later date. The first two will be on the stand at Peterborough so come and see them for yourselves!
With work on our Class 91 progressing well, it only seems appropriate to have some suitable rolling stock for it! Our brand new C and B wagons are the perfect addition to this loco. Both wagons will be available on both 32mm and 45mm gauges in both MDF and Plywood. The perfect addition for NG15s and NGG16s. Priced at £75 each in MDF and £90 each in Plywood, these wagons will be available later in the year along with some other SAR projects. We’re aiming for July/August. In fact, we’ve just green-lighted the prototyping of our Apple Express coaches which will be released at the same time as these!
Come and see them both for yourself at Peterborough!
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Time for the final Peterborough reveals! The 13m WHR coaches! Covering coaches 2043 to 2048 and 2010, these coaches complete the main WHR Range we will be releasing. The notable exception is Glaslyn which will be available at Exeter all being well. In time, we may also release 2011 if we can get the required technical data. Priced at £110 in MDF and £125 in Plywood, these coaches are the perfect addition to our WHR train and will be available to order at Peterborough. Come and see them for yourself!!!
Oh, and in regard to pricing, that should very much be considered a guide price. We have something special planned for Peterborough that we can genuinely say no one will see coming! Well, these are the final ones we're showing you before the show. We have 4 more that will be revealed at the show. Its safe to say these 4 are highly anticipated.
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Now, time for the final reveals! What's that. I thought you'd already done that. About that........
Firstly, Coach 15!
We asked if you wanted coach 15. You said you did. So here it is!!!! It’s ended up slightly more expensive than her sister but we still feel it offers great value for money. Priced at £105 in MDF or £120 in Plywood. Available at Peterborough. Along with 4 other shall we say related projects....... Prices are only a rough guide (well it was at the time of writing, see below for the real pricing!!!). Is this the fastest Bowaters Models has been able to turn around a project? Probably. Plenty more rapid turnarounds to come!!!
Now onto the good stuff. Seeing as they're out in the wild, time to properly reveal the 2 major 2019 projects we've been working on.
A while ago, we announced ranges covering both South African Railway and a set of Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway Heritage Coaches. Examples of BOTH ranges will be available for viewing at Peterborough! We aim to have a wide range of models on display and we're sure there's something for everyone!
For more information on our FR & WHR Heritage range, view the range on our website!:- Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways Heritage Coaches
For more information on our SAR range, view the range on our website:- Coming Soon – South African Railways
We also have some additional information regarding pricing on the Peterborough show website! For the first time ever, we've been able to make some major changes to a large percentage of our products regarding pricing. Have a look for yourself:- Narrow Planet/Bowaters Models - National Garden Railway Show
We're also delighted to present to you the latest edition of our catalogue along with our new price list. Both are effective as of the 1st of April which is when the website update is aimed to go live with the new models on. Have a look for yourself as we're sure we have something for every modeller in our new expanded range!
Catalogue:- Bowaters Catalog v1 2019 Revision 2.pdf
Price List:- Price List April 2019 Peterborough 2.pdf
If you have any questions, please let us know!
Firstly, Coach 15!
We asked if you wanted coach 15. You said you did. So here it is!!!! It’s ended up slightly more expensive than her sister but we still feel it offers great value for money. Priced at £105 in MDF or £120 in Plywood. Available at Peterborough. Along with 4 other shall we say related projects....... Prices are only a rough guide (well it was at the time of writing, see below for the real pricing!!!). Is this the fastest Bowaters Models has been able to turn around a project? Probably. Plenty more rapid turnarounds to come!!!
Now onto the good stuff. Seeing as they're out in the wild, time to properly reveal the 2 major 2019 projects we've been working on.
A while ago, we announced ranges covering both South African Railway and a set of Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway Heritage Coaches. Examples of BOTH ranges will be available for viewing at Peterborough! We aim to have a wide range of models on display and we're sure there's something for everyone!
For more information on our FR & WHR Heritage range, view the range on our website!:- Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways Heritage Coaches
For more information on our SAR range, view the range on our website:- Coming Soon – South African Railways
We also have some additional information regarding pricing on the Peterborough show website! For the first time ever, we've been able to make some major changes to a large percentage of our products regarding pricing. Have a look for yourself:- Narrow Planet/Bowaters Models - National Garden Railway Show
We're also delighted to present to you the latest edition of our catalogue along with our new price list. Both are effective as of the 1st of April which is when the website update is aimed to go live with the new models on. Have a look for yourself as we're sure we have something for every modeller in our new expanded range!
Catalogue:- Bowaters Catalog v1 2019 Revision 2.pdf
Price List:- Price List April 2019 Peterborough 2.pdf
If you have any questions, please let us know!
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
And with that, our webstore has now been updated to feature all our new releases ready for the National Garden Railway Show at Peterborough! We've included the 3 new sections below (1 of which we've shall we say, kept very quiet about when it was coming). At the same time, we have also rolled out the latest pricing across all affected models. In addition, We have updated our Narrow Planet webstore with the new pricing however it doesn't feature the latest releases. This will be explained after the show.
Now for the good stuff, starting immediately, we are pleased to offer our show offer to anyone who orders from now until Midnight on the 7th of April! All orders will receive 5% off if placed either through our website or via our stand at the show. For our website, simply enter PETERBRO19 when prompted during checkout to enjoy your savings! Alternatively, click this link to have the discount applied automatically to your order! - Bowaters Models Webstore
All orders come complete with shipping to the United Kingdom as standard with shipping overseas being at cost.
The new sections of the webstore!:-
Assorted:- Assorted
FR and WHR Heritage:- FR and WHR Heritage
South African Railways:- South African Railways
We look forward to seeing everyone at Peterborough and hope to see you there!
Now for the good stuff, starting immediately, we are pleased to offer our show offer to anyone who orders from now until Midnight on the 7th of April! All orders will receive 5% off if placed either through our website or via our stand at the show. For our website, simply enter PETERBRO19 when prompted during checkout to enjoy your savings! Alternatively, click this link to have the discount applied automatically to your order! - Bowaters Models Webstore
All orders come complete with shipping to the United Kingdom as standard with shipping overseas being at cost.
The new sections of the webstore!:-
Assorted:- Assorted
FR and WHR Heritage:- FR and WHR Heritage
South African Railways:- South African Railways
We look forward to seeing everyone at Peterborough and hope to see you there!
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Time for the reveals from Peterborough! We revealed two engines and a new set of coaches!
At the National Garden Railway Show, we debuted two of our brand new items of motive power! Our South African Railways Class 91 and Royal Naval Armament Depot 60HP Diesel!
The South African Railways Class 91 was a class of 2ft gauge diesel built for operation on the Avontuur line out of Port Elizabeth in the eastern cape. These engines at first operated alongside then replaced the Beyer Garratts which were then sent to work on Natal. Until recently, most of the class survived however in recent times, a number have been scrapped with a number surviving into preservation.
The Royal Naval Armament Depot 60hp Diesel was a type of engine that operated on the wide array of rail connected depots used by the British Government specifically for the Navy. A small number were built but they saw long and useful service in their intended role. As the depots they served closed, a number have been sold into preservation with examples being found at the Ffestiniog Railway, Lynton and Barnstaple Railway and the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway amongst others.
The Class 91 is modelled in as built condition and the RNAD is based on the preserved Barton Hall on the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway. A Spoornet condition Class 91 is being considered and the RNAD can be offered with one or two belt covers to allow for a wide range of these engines to be modelled.
Both feature laser cut construction, 3D printed sections and plenty of etched detail! They’re suitable for 32mm gauge and 45mm gauge. Both engines will feature PDF Models power units and come complete with Accucraft Chopper Couplings as standard! Neither are available yet with the RNAD diesel being due at Sittingbourne later this year and the Class 91 being due at Exeter!
We have listened to you and are releasing 4 Superbarn style coaches! Covering both styles of saloons, service car 125 and Pullman 150, this range along with potentially the 5 FR coaches currently in storage which will complete the Bowaters Models FR Range in full. We’re aiming for the first one to be at Exeter with a similar price to our 13m WHR coaches. This should bring the FR fleet up to 19 different coaches along with a full range of WHR coaches. We are also actively considering making Service Coach 2011 to complete the WHR range along with the in-development coach 2100 'Glaslyn'. Image by Max Brayne.
As always, if you have any questions, let me know!
At the National Garden Railway Show, we debuted two of our brand new items of motive power! Our South African Railways Class 91 and Royal Naval Armament Depot 60HP Diesel!
The South African Railways Class 91 was a class of 2ft gauge diesel built for operation on the Avontuur line out of Port Elizabeth in the eastern cape. These engines at first operated alongside then replaced the Beyer Garratts which were then sent to work on Natal. Until recently, most of the class survived however in recent times, a number have been scrapped with a number surviving into preservation.
The Royal Naval Armament Depot 60hp Diesel was a type of engine that operated on the wide array of rail connected depots used by the British Government specifically for the Navy. A small number were built but they saw long and useful service in their intended role. As the depots they served closed, a number have been sold into preservation with examples being found at the Ffestiniog Railway, Lynton and Barnstaple Railway and the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway amongst others.
The Class 91 is modelled in as built condition and the RNAD is based on the preserved Barton Hall on the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway. A Spoornet condition Class 91 is being considered and the RNAD can be offered with one or two belt covers to allow for a wide range of these engines to be modelled.
Both feature laser cut construction, 3D printed sections and plenty of etched detail! They’re suitable for 32mm gauge and 45mm gauge. Both engines will feature PDF Models power units and come complete with Accucraft Chopper Couplings as standard! Neither are available yet with the RNAD diesel being due at Sittingbourne later this year and the Class 91 being due at Exeter!
We have listened to you and are releasing 4 Superbarn style coaches! Covering both styles of saloons, service car 125 and Pullman 150, this range along with potentially the 5 FR coaches currently in storage which will complete the Bowaters Models FR Range in full. We’re aiming for the first one to be at Exeter with a similar price to our 13m WHR coaches. This should bring the FR fleet up to 19 different coaches along with a full range of WHR coaches. We are also actively considering making Service Coach 2011 to complete the WHR range along with the in-development coach 2100 'Glaslyn'. Image by Max Brayne.
As always, if you have any questions, let me know!
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
With the launch of our new webstore, Bowaters Models has seen new levels of profitability and a completely new way to get our products to you our customers. Combined with other signifcant improvements in the business, we can offer a wider range of products to you a lot faster than we have in the past. However, our new webstore does duplicate against our section of the Narrow Planet webstore we also maintain. Keeping both stores running requires a huge amount of work in the background effectively doubling our workload every time we release a new product.
Therefore, we have made the decision that we will be only supporting our own store as of the end of June. As such we will be removing everything from Narrow Planet on that date. We thank the team at Narrow Planet for their support over the time we’ve been there and we’re looking forward to the future operating our own store. We will be continuing to work with Narrow Planet on upcoming projects as appropriate and will continue to share a stand at the larger garden railway shows such as Peterborough.
Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
Wow, the detailing and finish on those burgundy FR coaches is amazing! Not too sure about the dodgy looking MDF building models in the background of the photo though.... 
Seriously though, I do like the look of the two new locos, though I don't do British outline myself.... I don't suppose there might be any chance of a Faur L45H kit for us Euro G fans, is there? It's a shape that seems like it would lend itself very nicely to this sort of construction method, the only available large-scale model at the moment being the Blauturm kit at the thick end of seven hundred quid.
Jon.
Seriously though, I do like the look of the two new locos, though I don't do British outline myself.... I don't suppose there might be any chance of a Faur L45H kit for us Euro G fans, is there? It's a shape that seems like it would lend itself very nicely to this sort of construction method, the only available large-scale model at the moment being the Blauturm kit at the thick end of seven hundred quid.
Jon.
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Oh blogger
angr607
Owner, Bowaters models
Hi,Wow, the detailing and finish on those burgundy FR coaches is amazing! Not too sure about the dodgy looking MDF building models in the background of the photo though....
Seriously though, I do like the look of the two new locos, though I don't do British outline myself.... I don't suppose there might be any chance of a Faur L45H kit for us Euro G fans, is there? It's a shape that seems like it would lend itself very nicely to this sort of construction method, the only available large-scale model at the moment being the Blauturm kit at the thick end of seven hundred quid.
Jon.
I can certainly look into it. We’re doing a custom designed bogie for the 91 which can be modified to fit anything else. So it’s doable. I’ll have to have a look for drawings and go from there.
Jon
Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
In case it helps...
Faur L45H - Google Search
www.google.com
A very ubiquitous Eastern European NG loco, with a nice relatively simple body shape..... for ages I've been thinking about trying to scratchbuild a "close-enough" one on the chassis and bogies on an LGB V52, but a ready-done body kit would make it a whole lot easier!
Folks who have been on here for a while may remember that James Hilton built one of the Blauturm CNC-machined-styrene kits (ye Gods, I've just googlied it and found it was back in 2012.... where do the years go?) - there is some video of it on his blog here:
The Elly James & Keith Light Railway
The EJ&KLR (Elly James and Keith Light Railway), a G-scale LGB Spur IIm 1:22 scale Austrian outline model railway in the garden.
ejklr.blogspot.com
The L45H is also known as the Lxd2, as far as I'm aware they are basically the same loco.
Jon.
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Don't distract them Jon, I am secretly saving for a Class 91 - so far I have saved £10 
That has to be close to a LYD 2, shirley??
I would love one of these, a la WHHR.. Oh, and 'Emma' should be a dead simple one to do.
PS What, by the way, is your given-name, Mr Bowaters representative?