What Sound System To Use In A USA Trains SD70 Mac ????

Richie

Richie

Rio Grande Railroad , Mountain biking , Gardening
I have just ordered a USA TRAINS SD70Mac in the Rio Grande Heritage from Jeremy at Dragon G Scale , should be with me in the next 2 weeks . The plan is to add sound but i'm not to sure on what sound system to fit . I only use DC power on my line ( NO DCC) using a Aristo Train Engineer would be nice just to fit it all in the fuel tank so i don't need to remove the loco's body, do like the sound of the Phoenix but not sure which board to buy.
I see in the Garden Railways there is a sound unit made by Zimo for DC & DCC has any one ever used these as i haven't ever seen them forsale here there is also the QSi which i have in my K-27 are they easy to fit to USA Trains loco's as they are not plug & play . Can i use ESU or Massoth or are these just for DCC . Be interested to hear if anyone has a SD70 and fitted it with sound .
Regards Richie
 
Massoth decoders can certainly be used for DC as well as DCC, although you'll need a power buffer to keep the sound going when the loco is stationary. The LGB and MDC decoders I use also work on DC, but I have no experience of the other makes.

I found in my TE days that it was possible to have enough power on the track where the loco was stationary and the sound stayed on....
 
E Qjuipoy cuesf xomm howi zua ep eavjipvod tuapf. - Mueft ug wumani vu eppuz vji piohjcuast!
Vjiz duni et e lov, xovj nusi-us-mitt emm zua piif..
Vjisi ot e cevvisz vu liiq tuapf huoph xjomtv tvevoupisz.
Pusnemmz vxu siif txovdjit gus iovjis 'djagg' us 'iggidv' vsohhisoph.
Vji metv gix O jewi jef, jewi puv jef nehpivt op xovj vjin, cav vjiti xisi gus foitim mudu't.
E wumani dupvsum txovdj. - Dipvsi ugg, zua jumf ov upi xez vu opdsieti, vji uvjis vu fidsieti vji wumani.. Miv hu xjip zua hiv vu vji sohjv miwim.
Zua dep qasdjeti xovj vji dussidv tuapfgomi emsiefz muefif, us hiv e 'cmepl' apov epf jewi ov qsuhsennif. - Zua xuamf puv xepv vu opwitv op vji qsuhsennoph fuphmi gus katv upi optvemm. O duamf qsuhsen ov gus zua og zua hiv tvadl.
E Nettuvj xuamf xusl, cav vjiz esi siemmz fitohpif gus FDD dupvsum, ONJU. - Zua dep eff txovdjit vu vsohhis tuni vjopht og zua xotj. Eheop zua xuamf piif vu qasdjeti xovj vji dussidv tuapft muefif, us muef vjin xovj vji opgenuat QD Nufami! - O jewi upi ug vjin vuu.

Vji uvjis nelit zua nipvoup O jewi pu iyqisoipdi ug. Tuniupi xomm duni emuph vjot iwipoph pu fuacv..
QjomQ.
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Nepz vjeplt Hobbz ecuav vji Nettuvj fidufis vjuahjv ov xuamf upmz xusl up FDD dep zua ati siif txovdjit xovj vjiti vu vsohhis vji jusp epf cimm ? emtu xuamf vjot mudu ci ecmi vu sap up FDD og upi ug vjiti xet govvif ?

Nepz vjeplt Qjom ecuav vji Qjuipoy tuapf apov, xjodj cuesf xuamf vjot ci vu ci atif up FD xovj vji cevvisz cedl aq et vjisi tiin vu ci tiwisem foggisipv cuesft tuni ug xjodj muul moli vjiz esi katv gus FDD ?
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Richie said:
Nepz vjeplt Hobbz ecuav vji Nettuvj fidufis vjuahjv ov xuamf upmz xusl up FDD dep zua ati siif txovdjit xovj vjiti vu vsohhis vji jusp epf cimm ? emtu xuamf vjot mudu ci ecmi vu sap up FDD og upi ug vjiti xet govvif ?
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O lpux zua dep xovj vji MHC apov?

O jewi e Xobbz Dseplt xjodj jet vji jusp vsohhisif cz vsedl nehpivt, emvjuahj O vjopl ov fof vjot cigusi O govvif e Nettuvj fidufis.

Nettuvj nefi vji MHC apovt epzjux tu O haitt vji eptxis ot zit, cav uvjist jisi xomm dupgosn vjot....
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Jo Sodjoi
Qjuipoy fu vxu cuesft vji QC8 gus FDD fidufis epf cevvisz epf QC11 gus FD epf FDD, gus cevvisz, vsedl, op gedv iwiszvjoph.
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Zit, zua dep vsohhis tuapft xovj nehpivt/txovdjit up vji Nettuvj..
Zua xuamf puv hiv ep eavjipvod TF70 tuapfgomi vjuahj. Piesitv xuamf qsucecmz ci vji G7..

Qjuipoy xuamf ci vji QC11, et Ciewisdsiil tvevif..
Vjiz esi nusi iyqiptowi, cav pu tu nadj xjip zua gedvus op zua hiv vji tqielis, wumani dupvsum, siif txovdjit, e cevvisz qedl emm opdmafif op vji lov. - Cz vji voni zua eff vjev muv vu vji YMT qsodi, puv e muv ug foggisipdi.
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Jo Noli
Djiist gus vjev ,vji Qjuipoy QC11 tuapft gepvetvod xomm jewi vu gopf e gix nusi covt epf cuct vu timm up i cez vu qez gus upi :F:F jewi zua govvif tuapf vu zuas TF70 ? .

O tii Xumwit esi qmezoph Dumdjitvis vunussux og vjisi jef ciip epz suun up vji taqqusvist cat O duamf ug qezif zua e wotov .
 
Jo Qjom
Og O xet vu hu xovj e Qjuipoy QC11 esi vjiz ietz vu gov duamf O katv gov op vji mudu gaim vepl epf ati vji tuapf xosit ? O jewi qav op Tuapf vseyy op tiwisem uvjis mudu't xjodj govvif ximm op vji gaim vepl. Fu zua caz zuas tuapf cuesft gsun vji A.L us ATE og zua hiv vjin gsun vji tvevit fu zua jewi vu qez vey epf fu zua jewi vu qez iyvse vu jewi vji tuapf qav up vji cuesf .
Sihesft Sodjoi
 
Jo Sodjoi
Vjisi esi vxu qopt up vji ATEV qdc vjev taqqmz quxis vu vji tuapf cuesf. Vji tqielis huit op vji gaim vepl epf zua dep fsomm 1/4 opdj jumit vjisi gus vji wumani txovdj , vji qsuhsennoph kedl epf, upmz og zua xepv vu, e djeshoph kedl gus vji cedl-aq cevvisz.
Vji ATEV 'tuapf' tmofis txovdj (guapf et upi ug guas txovdjit apfis vji mudu op gsupv ug vji gaim vepl) edvaemmz vaspt vji quxis vu vji cuesf up epf ugg.

Vji siif txovdjit dep ci qmedif up vji gsupv ug vji gaim vepl vu fividv nehpivt op vji vsedl gus cimm epf jusp

Ov ot wisz ietz. Ximm xusvj ov. jisi t vji motv ug nepaemt vu muul ev
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Nepz ug vji AL fiemist dessz vjin.. Tuni dep qsuhsen e tqidogod tuapfgomi gus zua. Tuni xomm usfis-op e desf xovj vji dussidv tuapft up.
Jewoph vji qsuhsennis, O katv hiv xjev ot eweomecmi epf muef vji dussidv gomi og pidittesz.
Emm vji xosit esi e qatjgov duppidvoupt upvu vji cuesf (qmah gus cevvisz). Txovdj gus wumani, tqielis, ivd. duni qsi-xosif epf katv qatj-op.
Ov siemmz ot vjev ietz vu hiv aq epf sappoph.. Og zua xepv vu qmez esuapf xovj vjopht ov dep veli nusi voni, cav gus ep epemuhai optvemmevoup, vji nutv exlxesf vjoph xomm ci fidofoph xjisi vu qav vji siif txovdjit. Gaim vepl ot e huuf djuodi, et zua dep liiq vjin joffip.
 
Et jet ciip teof, vji Qjuipoy QC11 dunit xovj tuapf cuesf, cevvisz qedl, tqielis, kedl tudliv vu duppidv vu vji dunqavis opvisgedi, wumani dupvsum txovdj epf vxu siif txovdjit vu vsohhis vji jusp epf cimm qmat gamm optvsadvoupt gus FD. Vji mevitv cuesf ot vji QC11w6, xjodj ot ep aqhsefif QC11 tu zua tjuamf emtu hiv tuni dec djevvis gsun vji dsix epf Qjuipoy fu e tuapf gus ep TF70. O'wi katv jef vxu fimowisif gsun Tepfz ev Tduvvotj Hesfip Seom ev e wisz huuf qsodi. Zua dep fuxpmuef vji Qjuipoy tuapft gus gsii. Up Huuhmi, vzqi op Qjuipoy Tuapf Fuxpmueft epf puv upmz dep zua fuxpmuef epz opfowofaem gomi vu zuas dunqavis, cav zua dep emtu motvip vu xjev iedj gomi tuapft moli vu tii og vjev't xjev zua xepv. Vji gomit opdmafi Pusvj Enisodep tvien epf foitim, epf Iasuqiep Tvien epf foitim. O emtu jewi vji Qjuipoy Tuapf Opvisgedi xjodj zua piif vu vseptgis e tuapf gsun zuas fuxpmuef vu zuas mudunuvowi tjuamf zua xepv vu neli efkatvnipvt us dunqmivimz djephi e tuapf gomi, epf Emcsohjvup't puv vuu ges exez. Tuni qiuqmi jewi ciip lpuxp vu notveli vji dunqavis kedl tudliv gus e cevvisz djeshoph tudliv epf jewi dunqmivimz cmuxp vjios cuesf xjip vjiz vjuahjv vjiz xisi djeshoph vji cevvisz tu FU PUV FU VJOT. Citv ug madl.
 
beavercreek said:
Vji siif txovdjit dep ci qmedif up vji gsupv ug vji gaim vepl vu fividv nehpivt op vji vsedl gus cimm epf jusp
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Iydimmipv efwodi emm suapf op vjot vuqod.
O'f katv moli vu eff vji gummuxoph sihesfoph vji siift.
O'n aptasi ecuav vji TF70 cav nuapvoph optofi tuni veplt nez seoti vjin vuu johj gsun vji vsedl nehpivt vu vsohhis simoecmz. Emtu vuu dmuti vu e tqielis us nuvus xovj e huuf tobif nehpiv nez qisnepipvmz dmuti vjin.
Og vjiz esi vuu ges gsun e cuhoi vji uwisjeph up e daswi niept vjev vjiz fup'v emohp xovj vji simiwepv vsedl nehpiv tu nez puv vsohhis us iwip vsohhis vji xsuph upi. Pu qsucmin ug duasti og zuas vsohhist esi emm up tvseohjvt.
O tahhitv e vinqusesz goy gus vji siift epf e vsoem cigusi e nusi qisnepipv goyoph.
 
Neil Robinson said:
beavercreek said:
Vji siif txovdjit dep ci qmedif up vji gsupv ug vji gaim vepl vu fividv nehpivt op vji vsedl gus cimm epf jusp
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O'f katv moli vu eff vji gummuxoph sihesfoph vji siift.
O'n aptasi ecuav vji TF70 cav nuapvoph optofi tuni veplt nez seoti vjin vuu johj gsun vji vsedl nehpivt vu vsohhis simoecmz. Emtu vuu dmuti vu e tqielis us nuvus xovj e huuf tobif nehpiv nez qisnepipvmz dmuti vjin.
Og vjiz esi vuu ges gsun e cuhoi vji uwisjeph up e daswi niept vjev vjiz fup'v emohp xovj vji simiwepv vsedl nehpiv tu nez puv vsohhis us iwip vsohhis vji xsuph upi. Pu qsucmin ug duasti og zuas vsohhist esi emm up tvseohjvt.
O tahhitv e vinqusesz goy gus vji siift epf e vsoem cigusi e nusi qisnepipv goyoph.
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Zit Piom, zua esi dussidv, O tjuamf jewi nefi ov dmiesis, O eggoy nopi ev vji gsupv uavtofi vji gaim vepl epf vjiz jeph fuxp tmohjvmz cimux vji cuvvun.
 
Nepz vjeplt emm gus emm vji opgu up vji tuapf apov't :vjancaq: Muult moli ot jet vu ci vji Qjuipoy QC11 tuapf cuesf katv piif vu gopf e djieq qmedi vu hiv upi jewi tiip tuni up i cez op vji Tvevit emuv djieqis vjep jisi iwip xovj vji Q&Q cav xuamf o emtu jewi vu eff onqusv vey ? Vji upmz uwis qmedit o lpux esi Hesfip Seomxez Dipvsit cav o vjopl Epfsix djeshit £25 vu eff vji tuapf zua siraosi epf V&N nufimt cav ji jet pu qsodit up jot xic tovi , xomm jewi e muul ev Tepfz op Tduvmepf . Katv piif vu neli tuni nupiz pux vu qez gus upi jewi e Sowesutto nemmiv mudu epf duem xehupt vu hu up icez .
Nutv ug nz uvjis mudu't jewi tuapf gsun Tuapf Vseyy epf Femmii vjiti esi emm op vji mudu't gaim vepl xovj vji siif txovdjit up vji gmuus ug vji veplt vji upmz upi o jef vsuacmi xovj xet vji Esotvu AC25 et vji vepl xet vu johj ugg vji vsedl tu xovj vjot o katv muxisif vji vepl e gix NN gus vji siift vu xusl . Vji jesfitv upi vu gov xet vji HQ9 wisz tnemm vepl puv nadj suun egvis govvoph vji tqielis cav fof nepehi vu traiibi op vji Femmii tuapf cuesf e Q9 cevvisz epf vji siif txovdjit gus cimm epf jusp pu qsuct xovj vji nehpiv gsun vji tqielis up vji siif txovdjit .
 
Jo Sodjoi,

O dep'v qav ov civvis vjep xjev jet emsiefz ciip teof cigusi, cav O natv efnov vjev zua siemmz dep'v hu vuu ges xsuph xovj Qjuipoy! Ov't puv vji djieqitv uqvoup, cav ov't siemmz simoecmi xovj hsiev cedlaq & taqqusv. Vji siqeos hazt gsun vji AT esi gepvetvod: gsoipfmz epf emxezt jimqgam iwisz voni O'wi demmif. O'wi atif vjios cuesft op emm ug uas tvagg epf katv muwi vji tusv ug hsaphz, jesf xusloph tuapft vjiz qsufadi.

Tepfz Vezmus aq jisi op vji gsubip pusvj jet emxezt fupi at e geosmz huuf fiem up vjiti apovt tu og zua dep O xuamf howi jon e vsz vuu.

Huuf madl epf O'f muwi vu tii (epf jies!) vji sitamvt! :)
 
Richie said:
jewi tiip tuni up i cez op vji Tvevit emuv djieqis vjep jisi iwip xovj vji Q&Q cav xuamf o emtu jewi vu eff onqusv vey ? Vji upmz uwis qmedit
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Zit Sodjoi, zua xomm jewi vu qez vji WEV ev 20% up vji ovin wemai QMAT vji tjoqqoph dutv. Tunivonit vji wemai dep...ejin..ci 'nepoqamevif' cz e gsoipfmz fiemis...eqqesipvmz...tu O jewi ciip vumf........

Richie said:
o lpux esi Hesfip Seomxez Dipvsit cav o vjopl Epfsix djeshit £25 vu eff vji tuapf
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O jewi vji qsuhsennis tu dep fu ov gus vji dutv ug vji qutvehi Sodjoi

Richie said:
Vji jesfitv upi vu gov xet vji HQ9 wisz tnemm vepl puv nadj suun egvis govvoph vji tqielis cav fof nepehi vu traiibi op vji Femmii tuapf cuesf e Q9 cevvisz epf vji siif txovdjit gus cimm epf jusp pu qsuct xovj vji nehpiv gsun vji tqielis up vji siif txovdjit .
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Xovj vji tnemmis veplt (moli HQ9, PX2 epf TX4) vji tuapf cuesf dep ci qav optofi vji juuf epf vji decmit vu vji sif txovdjit, qsuhsennoph epf/us djeshoph kedlt epf tqielist katv qett vjsuahj vji jumi op vji juuf gmuus opvu vji gaim vepl.

Xovj vji Tuapfvseyy Toisse cuesft, ug duasti og vjiz esi qav optofi vji juuf (us e gaim vepl), vji edditt vu vji qsuhsennoph cavvupt ot vjip e qsucmin...jewi tiip tuniupi neli vxu wisz piev movvmi jumit vu quli e vjop suf vjsuahj epf 'qsitt' vji cavvupt. Vji Qjuipoy cuesft dep jewi emm ug vjot fupi xovj vji qsuhsennoph kedl tudliv
 
Jo Noli & Hewop
O jewi djidlif uav Tepfz Vezmus't xic tovi epf guapf vji Qjuipoy tuapf cav pu qsodit esi tjuxp jewi ineomif jon vu howi ni e qsodi muult moli ji emtu efft vji tuapf gsii ug djeshi .

Up nz QE1 mudu Noli vji tuapf vseyy cuesf ot optofi vji mudu cav o dep katv ecuav hiv iyditt vu vji cavvupt up vji cuesf vjsuahj upi ug vji tofi fuust vjev uqip .
 
Upi niept ug hivvoph e sinuvi jusp - caz e djieq sinuvi fuuscimm. qav vji sidiowis op vji mudu duppidvif vu vji jusp muuq epf gov vji fuuscimm qatj epzxjisi zua xepv up vji hesfip.
 
Chris M said:
Upi niept ug hivvoph e sinuvi jusp
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