Scratchbuilt 2-6-4 tank loco

gregh

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I bought a PIKO 0-6-0 motor block intending to make a small 2-6-0 tender loco, but somewhere along the line I decided on a 2-6-4 tank similar to a New South Wales Railways 20 class like this:
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And this is the almost finished model.

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Naturally it is battery powered and radio controlled using Hobbyking 2.4 GHz equipment (see my webpages for more info on this stuff http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/satr/2point4GHz.htm )

So this is a blow-by-blow description of the work.

The first thing to do is to produce a drawing of what it will look like. I am not modelling an exact copy, as it has to fit the small wheels and wheelbase of the PIKO. It also has to have a boiler dia equal to the piece of pipe I have, and have general dimensions of about 140 high, and to have space and access for the batteries and radio control and sound. The PIKO has equally spaced wheels where the prototype has assymetric spacing.

This is how I do the drawing using MS Paint, PhotoEditor and Word. First, in Word, set the page display to View|Print layout so you see the actual page on the screen.
By holding an A4 sheet up to the screen, I have found that if I set my screen size to 70%, it will display as full size on the screen and print the same size as on screen. You may need a different percentage depending on your screen size.
You have to display the Drawing toolbar. I usually rotate the page to landscape view and have to draw at ½ full size to fit the loco across the screen.

Then I open the side view picture in Paint and copy and ?Paste special? into Word.
Then in Word, I draw some simple outline boxes over the picture.
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Then ?Group? the boxes and drag down for a separate picture.
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I take a photo of the motor block and repeat this procedure to overlay the wheels on the dwg.
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Now I adjust the size of the loco pic to give a suitable value for:
the required height (140 cab)
height of running board (45)
boiler dia to suit the pipe I have - 57mm
Motor block location
I wanted to keep the distance from the drivers? centerline to rear end to a max of 140mm to reduce overhang on short curves, so I shortened the side tank and boiler. Because the driver wheel spacing and diameter is smaller than original, this also helps to maintain the correct ?look?. I reduced the front overhang. I use a plastic ruler for measuring on the screen.
Now I group the loco outline and motorblock outline for a completed pic.
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Later on I?ll be able to try colours and lettering styles on this pic too.

So now it?s time to start building. I like to start with a ?flat surface? to work with, so I glued 20mm x 20mm aluminium angle to the motor block to make a frame. Everything below this attaches to it. Everything above is attached to the footplate which just sits on it ? no screws.
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The footplate is made from 2 thicknesses of 1.5mm styrene with many cutouts for wheel clearance etc.
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The motor block does not come with coupling rods so I had to make them from copper clad electronics board. The wheels have strange square-and-round holes for the coupling rods. Luckily I found that these little ?joiners? for garden irrigation pipe were a push-fit into the holes after squaring up a little with a file. They are the right internal size for a 1/8? tap. I superglued them to the wheels.

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The steps are soldered up from copper sheet and brass angle ? I?ve found that stuff under the footplate has to be STRONG to take derailment damage. This includes the cowcatcher and buffers too.

... more to follow.......
 
The front and rear bogies are plastic wheels in pieces of 10x10x3 mm aluminium angle. I had built single axle ones before and provided a down force by a spring brass which pivots on the motor block ( as the front one here). However I did the same with the 2 axle one attaching midway between the axles and it didn?t work! The axle closest to the motor had all the down force and the further one had none. Obvious when I looked at it, so the attachment is now at the furthest axle. If this sounds complicated, maybe these pics will help?
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The boiler is a piece of 57 mm OD plastic drainpipe. The smokebox is 0.5mm styrene with rivets embossed and contact glued around the boiler.
Smokebox front from 0.5mm styrene and door turned from Masonite, sealed with PVA white glue, and rivets in masonite are brass pins. Hinges are photo paper and superglue.

I turned the chimney from a bit of 15mm dia underground electrical conduit (it?s orange in Australia)? being for underground use it?s thicker than normal conduit - enough to give some taper. Turned some styrene for the cap. (I only have a wood lathe so can?t use metal!)

The Belpaire firebox is made up from layers of styrene.
Smokebox, boiler bands and firebox all super-glued onto boiler.

Dome turned from wood, with PVA glue to seal it. Screwed on from under.
The safety valve is bits of styrene tube and wire. The compressor is parts of pens with wire wrapped around. (it came out a bit big!)
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The tanks are 1.5mm styrene. They have rounded corners which I built up with alternate layers of black and white 1.5mm styrene. This makes it easier to see how far I have filed off to get the rounded effect even. Actually I mostly use the bench grinder to grind most of the styrene off ? a coarse wheel does the best job.
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Then I clad them with 0.5mm styrene with rivets embossed with a tracing tool, glued along the rivet lines only, with Revell MEK . Toothpaste caps for the filler caps. Around the curved bits there is no 0.5mm styrene. Rivets on these are dobs of PVA glue with a pin.
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The rear tank houses the 2? speaker, facing into the cab. It is glued to the back wall of the cab. The top coal bin at rear lifts off for access to speaker terminals and charging points.

For the cab roof, I used two layers of 0.5mm styrene glued together to hold the shape. It is quite a ?flat? curve ? about 150mm radius I calc. First, the ?under? roof piece is lightly scribed with lines 2-3mm apart. This causes a natural curvature. Then held them over a curved former with rubber bands and styrene glued together. This is most of the parts.
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The cowcatcher is soldered up from brass strip and steel wire ? for strength. I solder it up flat and then bend to the shape. An interesting geometry exercise.

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The buffers are made from 30mm clouts (nails with flat heads). I heated them and pressed right into 1.5mm styrene. Then I cut the styrene roughly round and chucked into my drill and filed to circle. The shaped bits are parts of golf tees.
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I painted most of the bits before assembly, then glued it all together ? here it just after glueing, with lots of detailing to go yet.
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Now for the radio control and sound?..
 
While doing all this design and construction, it is necessary to keep in mind how I am going to fit the batteries and electronics. Everything will be in the boiler with just 2 wires/plug to the motor. Access to everything will be from under the footplate and into the boiler between the side tanks. This is only 35mm wide.
I originally planned to use a LiPo battery but the one I bought was too big (my wrong measurements!), so I?ve opted for 9 NiMH cells, four in one side tank and five in the other. I chose nine cells to give a max speed of 50 kph the same as the prototype.
Here?s a pic of the 5 cells soldered up, and hot glued together. The orange disk is the Polyswitch resetable fuse.
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I?m using 2.4 GHz RC, so I had to fit the receiver, Speed control (ESC) and reversing servo in, plus the sound system which I design myself. So I cut a piece of veroboard (the stuff with copper strips on the underside) to mount everything. All this is screwed to the top of the boiler from underneath.

I mounted the 2.4 GHz stuff on one end of the vero with hot glue. As usual, the long servo leads get in the way, but it?s too hard to shorten them. This pic shows the 2.4 GHz stuff before the sound electronics.
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Then it was ready for test running. I found a few clearance problems and had problems keeping the front wheels on, but I think I?ve fixed them.

Now for the sound?..
 
Very nice job indeed Greg - looks great:thumbup: Like the colour scheme too! Like the idea of the composite of different coloured plastic to serve as gauge (clever thinking that). Top notch:thumbup:
 
Inspiring Greg. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
gregh said:
New Haven Neil 2 said:
Oooh nice! Looks like a Beyer, Peacock loco too?
You're right. NSWR used lots of Beyer Peacock locos. But how did you tell?

By the cab and smokebox I reckon.

A nice model of a very pretty engine. Like it :bigsmile:
 
Very nice looking loco :thumbup:
 
Nice work Greg....
 
Oooooh yes I do like that...What a terrific build....an electronics wizard, a great scratch-builder...what next Greg...:clap::clap:
 
brianthesnail96 said:
gregh said:
New Haven Neil 2 said:
Oooh nice! Looks like a Beyer, Peacock loco too?
You're right. NSWR used lots of Beyer Peacock locos. But how did you tell?

By the cab and smokebox I reckon.

A nice model of a very pretty engine. Like it :bigsmile:
Absolutely spot on Matt! Shape of the cab cut out, and the smokebox.:thumbup:
 
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