Round Robin boxcar
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I still look out for this thread too.
That's why I asked if the box car was hibernating.
That's why I asked if the box car was hibernating.
Rhinochugger
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Glengrant said:
The same Tom Rolt of Tallylyn fame
However, 'Red for Danger' is compulsory reading for any train fan, apart from anything else, it gives a tremendous insight into what was expected of a railwayman in the early days.
Absolutely, those were hard times for drivers firemen and signalmenRhinochugger said:Glengrant said:
The same Tom Rolt of Tallylyn fame
However, 'Red for Danger' is compulsory reading for any train fan, apart from anything else, it gives a tremendous insight into what was expected of a railwayman in the early days.
Just to show that I am also still reading all of this, let's make sure I got the quote correct. It starts with Sutton's awful discovery. "Where's them two light engines I sent on, Ben?". "You haven't given me any". ..........Sutton to his relief, "Go to Bence (the stationmaster) .... and tell him I am afraid I have wrecked the Scotch Express". And they call Coronation Street dramatic stuff!!! Balderdash
Rhinochugger
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Glengrant said:
Probably one of the individual tragedies relating to a signalman that still sticks in my mind, was where the guy spent the night walking miles through the snow to get a doctor for his sick child, walked miles back home, and the child died, was then required to walk to work and put in a full shift, made a mistake with an ensuing crash.
Can you fill in the details, Cyril ?
Yes you've got the basic story there. James Holmes signalman on the NER main line between Northallerton and Thirsk, got home in the morning to find his child seriously ill. He went off to try to get hold of a doctor, trudging through the countryside, it was the month of November, got home to find that the child had died. He then had to go on duty having had no sleep all day, and of course had to leave a distressed wife on her own. During the night he was faced with a busy line and forgot the position of a train, in fact he dropped off to sleep for a short time. A collision took place between an Express and a goods. 8 people died. Holmes was charged with manslaughter and found guilty but the judge ruled that Holmes be discharged, loud cheering from the body of the court. The NER and its operational procedures came in for much criticism, and quite rightly so. Holmes ought have been declared unfit for duty and replacedRhinochugger said:
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There are two such incidents which spring to my mind. One was at Manor House (between York & Darlington) in 1892. The signalman was not made to work as such: rather neither he nor his immediate Station Master was prepared to state definitely that he was unfit for work. The accident is described on pages 13-17 of Adrian Vaughan's book "Obstruction Danger" (1989).Rhinochugger said:
The second incident was (if I remember correctly) on one of the North British branches southeast of Edinburgh. Described in volume 1 of the David & Charles history of the North British Railway which, alas, I no longer own so can't quote the page references.
Edit - while writing the above Cyril documented the same story. Great minds think alike!
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Ah indeed, both great books, read until the print wore through when I wuz but a lad. I have another by Stanley Hall, 'Danger Signals', which details more recent disasters. We should never underestimate the importance of professional railwaymen and the responsibility they carry.
Now, when's that wagon going to cross the Irish sea??
Now, when's that wagon going to cross the Irish sea??
Sorry, this hare/signalman was lying dormant and a chance remark of mine set it off.
My actual point was that the boxcar semed to be on the move, but few pictures were appearing to illustrate its travels, which was surely the point of this thread. Lately this seems to have been taken care of, so many thanks for the latest shots.
Just hope it gets down south before time is called on the Cattewater & Southern which, it is feared, may be under notice of closure in 2012.
My actual point was that the boxcar semed to be on the move, but few pictures were appearing to illustrate its travels, which was surely the point of this thread. Lately this seems to have been taken care of, so many thanks for the latest shots.
Just hope it gets down south before time is called on the Cattewater & Southern which, it is feared, may be under notice of closure in 2012.
Rhinochugger
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bobg said:
Sorry, t'was not meant to hijack the thread - we wus just talkin' while the boxcar was on the move.
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No, I plead to being the guilty party, because it was when the boxcar was on my premises that the accident ocurred, and I started the quotes. I now formally apologise to you all for allowing this digression (you do and you'll clean it up) to develop. I am quite serious. It could be an interesting thread, but not here, somewhere else.
LET THE BOXCAR MOVE ON
[style="color: #000000;"]and let's watch it as it goes around the globe
LET THE BOXCAR MOVE ON
[style="color: #000000;"]and let's watch it as it goes around the globe
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I have enjoyed both parts of this thread and am also guilty of a slight drift.
I have just started a new thread that might be of interest,
WORKERS ON THE RAILWAY - PAST AND PRESENT - FUNNY OR SAD
I have just started a new thread that might be of interest,
WORKERS ON THE RAILWAY - PAST AND PRESENT - FUNNY OR SAD
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I always look on the box car thread whenever it pops up again. Now the new railway is running I would very much like it to call in here on it's way back down south, if that's where it's going. If that is possible. If it's finished in this country by September there is a good chance I will go to Poland and Hungary (right down the bottom near Romania this time). If there's any one that way out who wants it?
Maybe some one with more talent than I (not too difficult
) could fiddle with this thread and make a " Round Robin Box Car Gallery" out of it. It would be nice to see just the piccys in one place with out all the ramble, says he rambling on. Keep this thread and still use it for the travails of the box car but as and when piccys are posted take a copy of just the photos and where it is for the gallery? Possibly hard work for someone but I think it would be woth it, especially for any newcomers who don't really know anyone yet.
Maybe some one with more talent than I (not too difficult
) could fiddle with this thread and make a " Round Robin Box Car Gallery" out of it. It would be nice to see just the piccys in one place with out all the ramble, says he rambling on. Keep this thread and still use it for the travails of the box car but as and when piccys are posted take a copy of just the photos and where it is for the gallery? Possibly hard work for someone but I think it would be woth it, especially for any newcomers who don't really know anyone yet. craigrailinc
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Hi Cyril
Fear not the box arrived in Glasgow last week and will out on the track this weekend. (might make it to 2 railways)
Who's for it next?
Brian
Fear not the box arrived in Glasgow last week and will out on the track this weekend. (might make it to 2 railways)
Who's for it next?
Brian
