Rail car manufacturer help- please

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Blackreed

Dan Black
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I hope you will help, I am looking for flat cars and I do not want to buy 1 from every manufacturer, what I need to see is the undercarriage of the cars, could be any type of cars that starts as a flatbed, made of steel. I am looking for cars that I can cut apart, I’m only concerned about the framing.
So basically please if you could, would you please take your flat cars flip them over and photograph them, and please identify the manufacturer.
I hope this doesn’t sound ridiculous, but so far I have been unable to get any car that has a frame under it, that I can use to build steel flat cars out of. I have no interest in using the deck and am willing to replace everything if need be.
My next hope is to go to the local train yard and lay under the cars while I measure and photograph the cars.
Thank you so much in advance.
Dan
 
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Look at the Newquida Bogie Opens, cheep and have a good under frame detail. The Top just screws off leaving you with what I believe you will need. Sorry cannot offer a Picture, I only know them from my friends line that was demolished and all sold off 7 years ago.
 
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Dan,
Do NOT go to any active yard, and lay under stock, of any description!

A hunt for drawings (there are books with plans in) will be safer. You also need to give us an idea of the nationality, and gauge, of stock you are interested in?
I am guessing, American, standard gauge, perhaps? - If so, European, metre gauge, would not be of much ise to you.
 
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EGADSZOOKS....the internet is full of this information...but closer to home; just look at a simple Aristocraft flat car, for an idea of what a steel underframe car can look like. Actually, the same underframe was used by Aristocraft for their box cars, stock cars, gondolas, and flat cars.
You do not indicate where you live, or the origin of the equipment you are seeking information about. European, and British flat cars are often quite differently designed than North American equipment.
 
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Dan, as Fred says, don't crawl under vehicles in railway depots, even if you did manage to get in, you'll probably find yourself going out a lot quicker, complete with a nice boot print on you nether regions. If you do need to get up close, I'm sure that there must be a museum close to you, where you can get a good look safely, and with as much help from the staff as you need
 
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I don't have any photos to hand at the moment as my stuff is all packed away. Some cheap G scale brands to consider, who have or had bogie flat car in their range:

Newqida
Bachmann
HLW
Keystone
 
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East Broad Top had some steel flatcars that they built in the it shops. No commercial models that I know of, but drawings are available.
 
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Newqida flat cars, a bit of a repaint on the bottom. I painted them yellow at one time to carry pipe loads.
 

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Blackreed

Dan Black
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Mike that is a beautiful car, I have not gotten one that nice yet.
I am in Pennsylvania, I’m trying to fit my heavy equipment onto rail cars.
I was hoping to gut out the not frame parts of the car and then to rebuild those parts.
My original plan was to use an existing plastic frame without reconstructing the entire frame.
All of the cars I’ve collected so far, look real on the outside, when they are turned over there’s no frame, or really nothing to attach to.
I’m working on the 1930’s in America right now, however I’m going to move forward in time as I go.
Honestly I’m not sure how I’m going to build the frames if they are plastic without getting the basic shape of a frame with out truss rods.
I’ve been scouting plastic, and hoped that maybe an old bridge or something would offer the side pieces.
I’m sure the wooden cars would look great, but even a Caterpillar D2 would pound the wooden car apart.
I’ve not found parts of the cars yet either, like in the smaller scales (black hills modeling, or San Juan car company) where I can buy the cars piece by piece, I thought the car mike has there was O-scale.
The most painful part is that my local hobby shop only orders G-scale equipment.
Thank you for the knowledge, I’m getting smarter by the minute.
 
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Here's a pic of Geoff's scratch built EBT #108 steel flat.



The thread is on Finescalerr with more photos: Fn3 EBT steel flat # 108