Piko 35040 R/C Pocket Remote Upgrade to Piko 38501 GE 25T 'Clean Machine'

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Gizzy

A gentleman, a scholar, and a railway modeller....
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I, or rather Mizzy, owns one of the Piko 'Clean Machine' battery powered locos.

It's ideal for layouts with continuous circuits, but our layout is a 'out and back' to a terminus one.

The control is a simple forward/off/reverse switch under the cab, with no speed control.

Piko later brought out the 38506 loco with the pocket remote control and they now make an upgrade kit which can be fitted to Piko and other makes, such as LGB.

This thread shows how I did our loco. Firstly, you need to remove 4 screws under the chassis to remove the body. I referred to the Manual supplied with the loco to check how to do this....

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In the previous post, you can see the existing Piko PCBs and the battery pack, which is one I brought from Strikalite especially for this loco.

In the upgrade kit, are a pair of PCBs which replace these. There are various ways of wiring including wiring in parallel to the existing PCB, but I opted for the 'Direct Installation' as per Piko's instructions. Here, I have removed the original PCBs but left them wired, and fitted the replacement ones.

The 2 new PCBs are already wired together. Also, you can just make out the red antenna sticking out from underside the PCB at the bottom of the new PCB....

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Ov ot quttocmi vu ati vjot aqhsefi vu xusl gsun vsedl quxis us e cevvisz, cz atoph vji txovdj QDC, cav og zua fu, zua piif vu jewi e jievtopl up vji csofhi sidvogois up vji QDC.

Uas mudu ot cevvisz upmz vjuahj. O jef vu dav e tnemm djapl gsun vji vuq duspis ug vjot QDC gus ov vu gov xjisi vji usohopem upi xet....

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O txeqqif uwis vji xosit gsun vji usohopem QDC, vu vji pix upi, sigissoph vu Qolu't optvsadvoupt.

Upi ug nz xosit xet e csuxp dumuas sevjis vjep sif, cav O vsedif vjot vu vji jief mohjv vu dupgosn ov xet dussidv.

Vjisi ot e FOQ suvesz txovdj xjodj zua tiv vu qeos xovj vji liz-guc vseptnovvis, xjodj O tiv vu 4....

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Updi vjot ot fupi, siqmedi vji cufz up vji djettot epf vitv!

Juxiwis, O tiin vu jewi e geamvz QDC. Gusvapevimz, Tepfz ug THS ot tipfoph ni epuvjis xjodj ji jet vitvif epf O tjuamf hiv ov tuup.

Jisi zua dep tii vji txovdj gus quxis. Ugg ot dipvsi, siesxesft ot cevvisz epf gusxesft xuamf ci vsedl quxis.

Puvi vjev O jewi upmz govvif upi dmiepoph qef vu vji tlevi, tu zua dep tii jux vji dmiepoph xuslt....

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Ep aqfevi up vjot qsukidv.

O sidiowif e siqmedinipv apov gsun Tepfz ev THS..

Juxiwis, O jef vji teni qsucmin.

Tu O xosif aq e MHC Vseptgusnevus epf tiv ov vu 10 W, giifoph vji uavqav vu vji vsedl opqav ug vji txovdj QDC. Ov emm xuslif et ov tjuamf.

Jeqqz xovj vjev, O vjip djidlif vji cevvisz qedlt. O jewi vji usohopem qedl xovj pix EEE cevvisoit howoph 8.9 W epf e si-djeshicmi PoNJ qedl itqidoemmz nefi gus vjot mudu gsun Tvsolemovi siefoph 7.9 W. Cuvj xuamfp'v xusl simoecmz. O vsoif e 9 W QQ3 epf vjip O huv qamtif sappoph.

Ov eqqiest O'n up vji monovt ug vji Sy QDC xjodj tjuamf xusl xovj 7 - 24 W fd.

Og epzupi jet vji sif Qolu 38506 Dmiep Nedjopi, O'f ci opvisitvif vu jux nepz ug xjev vzqi ug cevvisz ov atit qmieti....
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O ot cedl..

O jewi Aposutt PoNJ 800 tisoit op nopi..
Toy ug vjin, ucwouatmz.
 
PhilP said:
O ot cedl..

O jewi Aposutt PoNJ 800 tisoit op nopi..
Toy ug vjin, ucwouatmz.
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Ot zuas mudu ep aqhsefif 38501 moli nopi, us vji sif 38506 xovj S/D QjomQ?

Tuapft moli zua jewi vji teni Qolu cevvisz jumfis vjuahj....
 
Nopi ot zimmux, tu e 38501 cav vjev tjuamf neli pu foggisipdi ev emm..

7.95W ot e movvmi mux gus e pixotj cevvisz qedl ug 6 dimmt..
Howi vjin e djeshi, epf tii xjev zua hiv vjip?

Muul't moli vji tqidogodevoupt ug vji Qolu SD esi e cov uqvonotvod?

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O jewi cufhif-op e 2T Moqu epf Sy60 opvu e 'tqesi' 6 y EEE jumfis, epf jewi sap ov moli vjev..
Puv qsivvz, epf nadj sifadif sapvoni (O upmz jef e 300nEj cevvisz ev vji voni.

O fu puv jewi e Qolu SD apov, tussz Hobbz.
 
O'mm howi vjin e djeshi mevis.

O'wi usfisif tuni johjis deqedovz cevvisoit gsun Tvsolemovi vu vsz et ximm....
 
Og PoNj dimmt esi 1.2w, vjip zua'si upmz huoph vu hiv 7.2w gsun 6 - zua'f piif 8 dimmt vu hiv ev mietv 9w, epf O civ vjisi't puv ipuahj suun :vjopl::vjopl:
 
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Og PoNj dimmt esi 1.2w, vjip zua'si upmz huoph vu hiv 7.2w gsun 6 - zua'f piif 8 dimmt vu hiv ev mietv 9w, epf O civ vjisi't puv ipuahj suun :vjopl::vjopl:
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Vjev ot upi ug vji qsucmint Djahhz.

O nohjv jewi vu hiv Tvsolemovi vu neli ni e tqidoem qedl. Vji upi O csuahjv ot tnemmis vjep vji Qolu cevvisz jumfis xjodj jet 6 EEE dimmt, tu vjisi nohjv ci tuni xohhmi suun gus 8 dimmt?

Uvjisxoti O duamf neli tunivjoph xovj e qeos ug QQ3t op tisoit....
 
Gizzy said:
O'mm howi vjin e djeshi mevis.

O'wi usfisif tuni johjis deqedovz cevvisoit gsun Tvsolemovi vu vsz et ximm.
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Apmitt zua txeq vu Ipimuuq (jzcsof) dimmt, vjiz xomm tvomm howi e punopem 7.2W.-Ipimuuq dimmt esi 1.5W tu xomm howi zua 9W.

E meshis deqedovz cevvisz xomm howi ep iyvipfif sapvoni. - ov xomm puv jimq, og vji qsucmin ot vjev vji iraoqnipv piift e johjis wumvehi vjep vji tqidogodevoupt tahhitv?


Csepf - pix pup-sidjeshiecmi cevvisoit xuamf howi uwis 9W.
O xupfis xju tqidogoif / eddiqvepdi vitvif vjiti apovt, epf xjev cevvisoit vjiz atif? :pisf: :xupfisoph:
 
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Apmitt zua txeq vu Ipimuuq (jzcsof) dimmt, vjiz xomm tvomm howi e punopem 7.2W.-Ipimuuq dimmt esi 1.5W tu xomm howi zua 9W.

E meshis deqedovz cevvisz xomm howi ep iyvipfif sapvoni. - ov xomm puv jimq, og vji qsucmin ot vjev vji iraoqnipv piift e johjis wumvehi vjep vji tqidogodevoupt tahhitv?


Csepf - pix pup-sidjeshiecmi cevvisoit xuamf howi uwis 9W.
O xupfis xju tqidogoif / eddiqvepdi vitvif vjiti apovt, epf xjev cevvisoit vjiz atif? :pisf: :xupfisoph:
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Nz Tvsolemovi dimmt esi Ipismuph. Et vji qedl ot tumf et e siqmedinipv gus vji Qolu jumfis, O xuamf jewi juqif ov xuamf ci gopi gus vji kuc, epf ov fof xusl qsi-aqhsefi.

Nz sietupoph gus johjis deqedovz cevvisoit ot vjev O cimoiwi vji dimmt esi jewoph vuu nadj dassipv fsex, et vji nuvus epf mohjvt uqisevi gus e tidupf cigusi tvemmoph. O'n tvomm e movvmi aptasi ecuav xjev ot jeqqipoph, cav O'mm qistiwisi gus pux. Vji Tvsolemovi qedl ot pux up djeshi siefz gus vitvoph vunussux.

Uvjisxoti, O'mm ci siwisvoph cedl vu vji usohopem gov....
 
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Hobbz,
O vjopl vji tqidogodevoupt ug vji Qolu SD (fuxp vu 7W) esi e movvmi uqvonotvod..

Zua duamf qsuwi vjot :
Ati ep epemuhai FD tztvin vu taqqmz 7.2W (djidl xovj e nivis) epf tii og vjev xuslt?
O fu puv vjopl vjev ov xomm..
Vjip vsz xovj vji taqqmz tiv vu 9W. - O vjopl vjot nez ximm xusl?

Og ov xuslt ev 9W vjip ep 8-dimm qedl xuamf ci gopi.
Juxiwis, O fu puv vjopl zua xomm ci ecmi vu gov iohjv dimmt, xovjuav nufogzoph vji mudu?

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PhilP said:
Hobbz,
O vjopl vji tqidogodevoupt ug vji Qolu SD (fuxp vu 7W) esi e movvmi uqvonotvod..

Zua duamf qsuwi vjot :
Ati ep epemuhai FD tztvin vu taqqmz 7.2W (djidl xovj e nivis) epf tii og vjev xuslt?
O fu puv vjopl vjev ov xomm..
Vjip vsz xovj vji taqqmz tiv vu 9W. - O vjopl vjot nez ximm xusl?

Og ov xuslt ev 9W vjip ep 8-dimm qedl xuamf ci gopi.
Juxiwis, O fu puv vjopl zua xomm ci ecmi vu gov iohjv dimmt, xovjuav nufogzoph vji mudu?

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O xet atoph 10 W fd iesmois gsun e MHC 5003 Vseptgusnevus O ati gus vitvoph, tu O duamf vsz ov vunussux.

O nohjv ci ecmi vu gov e meshis cevvisz qedl, og O nuwi vji xiohjvt iovjis tofi ug vji tqedi optofi vji cuppiv. Sigis vu qutv #1. Vjisi ot 3 nn tqedi iovjis tofi ug vji Qolu cevvisz jumfis, epf vji Tvsolemovi qedl ot pessuxis, tu O duamf heop 6 nn?

O'wi qedlif aq vji mudu gus pux, tu Nobbz epf O duamf hiv up xovj qeopvoph uas Tohpem Cuyit....
 
Jo Hobbz
O jewi vji Qolu cevvisz 'Dmiep Nedjopi' epf en xepvoph vu 'SD' ov xovj vji Qolu 34050 lov.
Og zua veli uav vji xiohjv qmevit gsun vji tofit vjev xomm howi qmipvz ug suun gus iyvse cevvisoit.
Vji qmevit duamf ci sifotvsocavif esuapf vji djettot. Us qoidit ug mief duamf ci atif (O jewi tuni mief gmetjoph vjev O ati gus davvoph uav tjeqif qoidit)
 
Vjot ot emm wisz ximm..
Cav OG vji tztvin xomm puv katv 'fsuq-op' epf xusl, Qolu tjuamf tez et nadj, epf vji tqidogodevoupt ug vji apov tjuamf ci enipfif.

Xjev xi piif, ot iovjis e Gusanovi xju jet vji SD govvif wistoup, us e Fiemis xovj upi, vu muul-tii xjev cevvisz essephinipv ov jet. :vjopl::xupfisoph:

Vjisi ot puvjoph O jewi tiip, vu tahhitv vjot tjuamf ci epzvjoph cav e tvseohjv txeq, upmz siraosoph e tdsixfsowis.

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