Mallarddriver
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Hey John,
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Pico 'Ludmilla' BR 132 locomotive scale distortion?
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Trainman 864
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Well 1:30 would put it right in among the three principal gauge one scales - 1:32 - 1:30.5 (10mm/foot) - and 1:29, and if you take a look at this monster in the flesh, I think you would agree that it looks nowhere near right in a gauge one setting.
Trainman 864
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Yes but we know that the Piko model is not G1 - it's G scale! .... 
stockers
Trains, aircraft, models, walking, beer, travel
it's G scale! ....
and what is that. back to the beginning.
KentKeith
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G-Scale is a compromise scale......and if you don't accept that then you are in the wrong scale.
I started off with LGB HSB and RhB metre gauge and then realised that using the same track gauge I was able to run Standard Gauge American and European, 750mm German Narrow Gauge plus Isle of Man and Welsh Narrow Gauge.
What I don't normally do is run narrow gauge with standard gauge stock but I have no problem running RhB metre gauge with 750mm narrow gauge..... but then, if I wanted to I could, its my railway for my pleasure......
I started off with LGB HSB and RhB metre gauge and then realised that using the same track gauge I was able to run Standard Gauge American and European, 750mm German Narrow Gauge plus Isle of Man and Welsh Narrow Gauge.
What I don't normally do is run narrow gauge with standard gauge stock but I have no problem running RhB metre gauge with 750mm narrow gauge..... but then, if I wanted to I could, its my railway for my pleasure......
Trainman 864
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Exactly - it's a G scale model in almost every dimension except length, which has been compressed to that of a Gauge 1 model.
I know that scale manipulation is neccessary in the world of G gauge - however I think that a 22% reduction is way too much. Unfortunately it seems few people would agree with me.
Oh well ....
Yes I'm aware and accept that - my 'problem' is that I'm in both scales, so maybe I'm overly sensitive to the differences between them ....
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Mallarddriver
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Hello John,
if you´re able to use dia larger than 2300 mm you can build some on your own by using scale 1:25 (exept the
gauge 45 mm instead of 58 mm).
For the BR 132 I would take 1:27. 763 mm long, 168 high and 112 wide,
that suits very good to the LGB and PIKO stuff.
Best regards
Soeren
if you´re able to use dia larger than 2300 mm you can build some on your own by using scale 1:25 (exept the
gauge 45 mm instead of 58 mm).
For the BR 132 I would take 1:27. 763 mm long, 168 high and 112 wide,
that suits very good to the LGB and PIKO stuff.
Best regards
Soeren
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Exactly - it's a G scale model in almost every dimension except length, which has been compressed to that of a Gauge 1 model.
I know that scale manipulation is neccessary in the world of G gauge - however I think that a 22% reduction is way too much. Unfortunately it seems few people would agree with me.
Oh well ....
Yes I'm aware and accept that - my 'problem' is that I'm in both scales, so maybe I'm overly sensitive to the differences between them ....
That's why I have settled with Fn3 - 1:20.3
from the scale perspective it's very satisfactory The downside is that it limits your choice, so no Ludmillas, TEEs or SD45s etc etc
You win some, you lose some
Mallarddriver
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Fn3 is pretty cool 
and you get these quaint locos at a very good price 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bachmann-G-2...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Best regards
Soeren
and you get these quaint locos at a very good price http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bachmann-G-2...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Best regards
Soeren
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Yes, the Heislers and Climaxes have never had the same appeal as the ShayFn3 is pretty cool
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bachmann-G-2-Truck-Climax-Black-W-white-running-board-stripes-DCC-Ready-85097/311914878588?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Best regards
Soeren
The Devonian
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I run two types of train on 45mm. track. 1:29 Aristocraft (SG models) and 1:22.5 Bachmann (NG models). I do not usually mix them but some Bachmann coal hoppers do not look out of place with some 1:29 stock.
The elastic dimensions and price of many European models swayed me towards the US outline.
In an early post it was suggested that the 'gummi' scale was to accommodate R1 curves. In my view that was a fundamental disservice as that tight radius is frequently only found in industrial location yards and small stocked NG railways but I believe that is how the European garden railway scene originated.
I have always understood 1:29 to have been selected by a one time American producer as being three times as large as HO and therefore dimensions were more easily translated.
The elastic dimensions and price of many European models swayed me towards the US outline.
In an early post it was suggested that the 'gummi' scale was to accommodate R1 curves. In my view that was a fundamental disservice as that tight radius is frequently only found in industrial location yards and small stocked NG railways but I believe that is how the European garden railway scene originated.
I have always understood 1:29 to have been selected by a one time American producer as being three times as large as HO and therefore dimensions were more easily translated.
