Phoenix Automatic Uncoupler - Any Users?

LGB333

LGB333

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The Kadee #11220 automatic uncoupler is a no go on the LGB Uintah locomotive. Since it's a self-contained servo unit, it's too big to properly fit onto the coupler arm of LGB locomotives and rolling stock. It's designed for frame-mounting on a locomotive or train car, not the coupler arm fixed to a truck. For folks not seeing any of my previous postings about this project, I sold a brand new LGB Uintah to a person last December and he's now having me install a Massoth DC/DCC XLS sound decoder, a Massoth Flickering Firebox Light, and a Massoth Pulsed Smoke Unit, into the locomotive. He then wants me to install automatic uncouplers into the Uintah, front and rear, plus an uncoupler on one end of each of five Uintah rolling stock he's just bought on eBay. He's going to design and build an indoor shuttle modular (moveable) layout using computer controlled software for the coupling/uncoupling and switching operations through his Lenz Central Station. We've found several videos and photos of the Uintah Railway he'll use for modeling the layout with a switching yard and representative railroad buildings.......pretty interesting project.

So, the next two options that he and I are considering for the automatic uncouplers on the Uintah loco and five train cars are: 1. Phoenix Sound's Remote Knuckle Uncoupler with their Remote Uncoupler Circuit board, or 2. The Massoth automatic hook & loop coupler which appears very reliable. We think the Phoenix uncoupler system looks more realistic than the Massoth hook & loop, but we haven't yet found much information on the Internet about hobbyists using the Phoenix units. Does anyone on this forum have any experience, good or bad, reliability, etc, with the Phoenix uncoupler system........if so please share it.
Thanks
Tom
 
Neil Robinson

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How about fitting ordinary Kadees on the loco and use servo versions on the cars?

Edit, sorry I've just re read the original post "It's designed for frame-mounting on a locomotive or train car, not the coupler arm fixed to a truck "
 
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LGB333

LGB333

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yeah, was afraid of that... body mount them, will look better.

nothing will look as ugly as hook and loop..

Greg
Greg - Well, as the expression goes, "it's in the eyes of the beholder." I've been using LGB hook & loop couplers for 30 years and don't focus my eyes on them when operating my trains indoor or outdoors. The beauty is in the locomotives and rolling stock and movement of the consists and shuttle operations. And, from a cost standpoint and least work perspective, I've just continued to use them all these years, and they don't bother me. In fact, anytime I've ever showed my trains to folks, I've never had anyone say "gee, these are really beautiful except for those ugly couplers." Anyway, just kidding you a little, it's all about personal preference, just like buying an automobile. But please don't hold back on your thoughts......your points are highly valued!
 
Greg Elmassian

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To each his own, of course, and if they don't bother you that's great.

But as couplers go, if you look at them, they have NEVER won a beauty contest! That's my point.

But it seems the customer wants to retain truck mount couplers, so I'm guessing the tight curves and wanting remote uncoupling are really not compatible with anything but a powered hook and loop... does he have R1 curves?

Greg
 
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Dan

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You could use the LGB knuckle on the truck and use a servo to pull up the uncoupling pin. Servo can be body mounted and chain can have a spring to assist in the truck swing side to side. hide the servo in the coal bin and use a sting to a pulley to decrease the 'ugly' look.