Over-critical so called customers .

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I just ordered a couple of loco kits from a very good manufacturer ; we have several of his models , so we know what to expect in the quality department .
It was rather irksome when talking with the bloke to find that he is completely dropping 7/8 stuff for a while .
His reason ?
Fed up with carping comments (from armchair modellers probably) , silly things like wheels wrong profile for a particular model (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) , no rivets (presumably a rivet counter was disappointed he could not pursue his hobby of being a damn nuisance) , and more in the same vein .
So what have the idiot so called scale specialists done ?
Denied entry level 7/8 stuff to encourage people to try it .
I am not about to divulge the company name , so don't ask , but if you are guilty of over-reaction to models , making a song and dance about supposed shortcomings will possibly lead to more examples of manufacturers saying sod it , it's not worth the aggro .
Of course , some people will be delighted to cause such problems , and you will probably have met them at shows where they declaim about missing snort valves on this particular model , wrong shade of brunswick green on that model , tossed in with a load of "they never made things like that" . In glottal English .
Then they go home to their lonely little world satisfied that they've upset someone and very firmly not making any models so that nobody can do the same to them .
Do not belittle yourselves by joining the over critical , you may live to regret it .
Just a reminder that our hobby is supposed to be fun .

mike m
 
I think that people with that mentality are just like door openers...knob ends...

David
 
It's a shame when the vocal minority causes issues for the quiet majority.

Any form of modelling is a compromise. Most of us cannot have full length trains running to full sized stations. Even in 00 scale a small station would need 25 ft of space!

And part of any modelling is making improvements to the look of stock, which is subjective for each individual anyhow?

That's why I like G. It doesn't take itself to seriously, and is fun....
 
Couldn't agree more. Much of my scratch built stuff is done with plain plasticard sheet so lacks much surface detail. I'm happy with 'looks ABOUT right'. I've just come by some coach and loco kits in a mixture of steel, brass and aluminium. I'll be more than pleased if I can actually get them together, never mind if they end up far short of prototypical. As for paintwork, that's down to what's on the shelf in the garage - normally a stock of Poundland, car-boot and QD clearance lines.
 
The put down to these people is to point out that their "exact, true to scale in all respects" model isn't. When they ask why, point out that on the real thing the steel sheet would be so many millimetres thick, and is their whatever scale model made of an appropriate and exact true to scale metal sheet. Chances are it isn't.
 
playmofire said:
The put down to these people is to point out that their "exact, true to scale in all respects" model isn't. When they ask why, point out that on the real thing the steel sheet would be so many millimetres thick, and is their whatever scale model made of an appropriate and exact true to scale metal sheet. Chances are it isn't.
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And I'll bet they use the wrong grade of oil!!!!! ;)
 
I suspect I know who you mean and that's a real shame as their kits are superb entry level ones but have received loads of flak from some quarters. I've got a few and they build up well and never had an issue with the wheels if you check the back to backs.
I'll have to ring up and get a few in if I can before they run out.
 
Agreed, certain people just need to eat more fiber :o
 
ROSS said:
Well said Mike (altho HJ (Canada) would not agree with you!!).

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ps. Ref Hudsons Bookshop...I'm steering clear.....costing me a fortune!!
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Ross , that hurt . The burst of laughing that issued forth from me sent me scrabbling for my medications .
Of course , they who are not in the know will wonder what we are talking about .
I shall not sully this forum by telling them .

mike m
 
That's just plain stoopid!! If they want to buy a highly detailed model then presumably they should go elsewhere and be willing to pay the extra cost involved.

I'm just putting the finishing touches to an IP Engineering Simplex (http://www.ipengineering.co.uk/page42.html) - I decided to add some extra detailing to what is a basic kit. The the price Ivan charges reflects this and I knew that when I bought it. If I'd really wanted a highly detailed kit I'd have forked out for the Slaters Simplex (https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?code=16L004) - but that would have cost me over four times the price (£360 v £80) - and I simply can't afford to spend that sort of money.

I assume the whingers are those who always want to pay the least but really want to get the most - or who are too idle to put a bit of effort into making or adapting something the way they want it .....

Rik
 
ge_rik said:
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I assume the whingers are those who always want to pay the least but really want to get the most - or who are too idle to put a bit of effort into making or adapting something the way they want it .....

Rik
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I think a lot of them are also the sort of people who who want to make themselves sound clever by "correcting" others and displaying their own "knowledge", which they sadly believe makes them in some way superior.... ah well, if they have nothing else in their tragic little lives I suppose we should pity them (but laughing at them is so much more fun.....) ;)

It's very unfortunate, however, to hear of a trader/manufacturer being hounded by these people to the point of giving up on part of his range. Much better to give them detailed instructions as to where to insert their opinions, with or without the assistance of vaseline. :o

Jon.

Jon.
 
There are streets named after those people you spoke about, Mike.

 

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ROSS said:
;D ;D ;D

By the way Mike...Try Googling POSTCRIPT BOOKS they have some nice, previously expensive (but reduced prices) railway books.
that might be of interest (and other books of course.) I bought a £30 book last week for £12.
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Ross , are you trying to make me broke ?
I just looked at their offerings and have been forced , nay , driven , to order some essential reading .
When my bank manager scolds me , I shall refer him to you . Oh , hang on , I don't have a bank manager , the branches are all withered and dead .
Ah well , I'll have something to read in the debtors' jail .

Mike M
 
ROSS said:
;D ;D ;D

By the way Mike...Try Googling POSTCRIPT BOOKS they have some nice, previously expensive (but reduced prices) railway books.
that might be of interest (and other books of course.) I bought a £30 book last week for £12.
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Good link there. Found a Book or two that I paid full price for, spitworthy but at least I can give this site a look now and again.
JonD
 
ROSS said:
If you request them on their site...POSTSCRIPT will send you a monthly catalogue free......
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Ever since you mentioned them a while ago, I have been a repeat customer. Well satisfied - even adding the Postage across the Irish Sea still worth it!
 
Just as a point of interest , I raised this same point on another site (yes , I am a philanderer) .
The responses could not have been more different from those offered here .
The essence of the responses was they gave a resume of what good modellers they were so they think bad is bad and should be advertised .
Some admitted to being proud to be rivet counters .
They must be great blokes to go to the pub with .
Imagine , playing darts , "That dart is not dead central in the bull's eye so should not be allowed" . Glottal , too , and hugging a lemonade or even pure fruit juice .
Funny people get attracted to this hobby .
Actually , there's a great potfull of rivet counters around , they must have a special club where they meet and breed .
I make models of anything transport oriented (NO , not chinese trains) , and can assure you that rivet counters seem to hatch just as a new kit appears . This means they are not seasonal breeders and thus are more dangerous given their proclivity for doing things correctly . Better not go there .
I must tell you of one instance .
A bloke made a model M113 Personnel Carrier , and did a commendable job of making it look rusty . The r/c's were ecstatic at seeing a proper model . The M113 is made from aluminium . The r/c's were made to look daft and even dafter by saying , mysteriously , that special steel ones were made but they could not divulge where or who for . They can never be wrong , you see .

mike m
 
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