NEWQIDA COACHES

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Leslie

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Does anyone know the minimum radius required to run these coaches?
 
Brixham

Brixham

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They are quite happy on LGB R1's...600mm radius.
Metal wheels help stability...Bachmann 32mm ones are a direct fit
And you'll need an extra hook, peg and spring for the coupling at one end....and maybe replace the original white spring at the other end.

For what they cost, great value!

Malcolm
 
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Malcolm,
You're a star
Please advise further on the coupling alterations as I'm a virgin on these matters
Regards,
Les
 
Zerogee

Zerogee

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#4
Agree with all of Malcolm's comments above - add metal wheels if you can afford them, and it is well worth swapping the white springs for black LGB ones (the white NQ ones are too stiff) .... I have several NQ coaches and wagons, including some conversions by German dealers like Zenner, and they all run just fine. R1 curves are no problem, BUT on some of the coaches - especially early ones, I don't know if they've fixed the problem with later production - you can get difficulties with the coupler shafts not being long enough, causing the buffers to foul - I have a rake of three early Green ones (with the "TB" logos) that I run behind my live-steam Aster/LGB Frank S - so as not to get the nicer but more expensive LGB coaches all oily and smutty - and to get round the problem I simply removed one buffer from each coach; it really doesn't notice when they are running in the garden!
Just seen your second post while I was typing this - you can buy LGB coupler hook sets as spare parts, each little sprue gives you a hook, a plastic concertina spring and the little round plastic "rivet" that holds the hook in place. One set of these per coach will allow you to add a second coupler hook to the end that just has a loop only, which will make the coupling of the coaches much more secure and less likely to uncouple when you don't want them to.
If you can get some spare extra LGB black springs at the same time, you can swap these for the white plastic NQ one, which as I mentioned above is quite stiff - the more flexy LGB ones will allow much more freedom of movement for the coupler hook and improve the overall running.
To see how the hooks and springs fit, just look at the existing ones on the coaches - the LGB spares are a direct replacement.

Jon.
 
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Leslie

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Jon,

Thanks a lot - another star.

Regards,

Les
 
dunnyrail

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#6
I use Bachman Metal Wheesl on mine, I also recommend a full swop for LGB Couplings with a Hook at each end because the Newquid ones are all rather weak. You may also find at times difficulties in Uncoupling them due to the flex on the Plastic between the Bogie Pivot and the Coupling securing point. This is due to a relatively long length and weaker plastic than used by LGB. I have considered beefing mine up with a metal insert in this chanel.
 
SophieB

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My husband and I have several of the Newqida coaches. We put metal wheels on them, but we've made no modifications to the couplers. The white spring is a bit odd, but no actual problems with them staying connected.

They will run just fine on R1 curves, but because of the length they look a little off on anything less than R3.
 
ebay mike

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#8
I've got around twenty of the first batch in all three colours. I've not modified them or changed the wheels (other than a couple that weren't running 'true'). To date no problems have been experienced, but then apart from a fan of R1 points the minimum ruling radius of my track is around R3.
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Leslie

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Agree with all of Malcolm's comments above - add metal wheels if you can afford them, and it is well worth swapping the white springs for black LGB ones (the white NQ ones are too stiff) .... I have several NQ coaches and wagons, including some conversions by German dealers like Zenner, and they all run just fine. R1 curves are no problem, BUT on some of the coaches - especially early ones, I don't know if they've fixed the problem with later production - you can get difficulties with the coupler shafts not being long enough, causing the buffers to foul - I have a rake of three early Green ones (with the "TB" logos) that I run behind my live-steam Aster/LGB Frank S - so as not to get the nicer but more expensive LGB coaches all oily and smutty - and to get round the problem I simply removed one buffer from each coach; it really doesn't notice when they are running in the garden!
Just seen your second post while I was typing this - you can buy LGB coupler hook sets as spare parts, each little sprue gives you a hook, a plastic concertina spring and the little round plastic "rivet" that holds the hook in place. One set of these per coach will allow you to add a second coupler hook to the end that just has a loop only, which will make the coupling of the coaches much more secure and less likely to uncouple when you don't want them to.
If you can get some spare extra LGB black springs at the same time, you can swap these for the white plastic NQ one, which as I mentioned above is quite stiff - the more flexy LGB ones will allow much more freedom of movement for the coupler hook and improve the overall running.
To see how the hooks and springs fit, just look at the existing ones on the coaches - the LGB spares are a direct replacement.

Jon.
Hello,

Once again a star

Regards,

Les
 
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Leslie

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I've got around twenty of the first batch in all three colours. I've not modified them or changed the wheels (other than a couple that weren't running 'true'). To date no problems have been experienced, but then apart from a fan of R1 points the minimum ruling radius of my track is around R3.
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Hello,

Thanks, greatly appreciated - another star

Regards,

Les
 
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My husband and I have several of the Newqida coaches. We put metal wheels on them, but we've made no modifications to the couplers. The white spring is a bit odd, but no actual problems with them staying connected.

They will run just fine on R1 curves, but because of the length they look a little off on anything less than R3.
Hello,

It's great to hear from a lady fan - another star in the galaxy.

Kind Regards,

Les
 
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curtis

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#12
Hi Leslie,

We recently purchased two Newqida green coaches. At the moment, we're still playing with trains in the lounge for Christmas. To answer your question, I made a short video with two of the coaches on our current setup:

http://instagr.am/p/BrdeKkLBWCk/
You can see the coaches take the LGB R1 curves fine. I haven't found there to be any trouble with the plastic wheels but our wooden lounge floor is pretty flat do it's not really challenge for them. That said, I can see them wobble when they go over the corners of the carpet so I will probably take the usual advice of fitting them with metal wheels when I get chance


They are quite happy on LGB R1's...600mm radius.
Metal wheels help stability...Bachmann 32mm ones are a direct fit
Thanks, Malcom - this helps me too!

I'll second Melcom on this too, "For what they cost, great value!"
 
Martino

Martino

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#13
I re-wheeled mine with metal wheels and also added steel bars on the floors of the coaches, so they became quite heavy. They run in a set of two with the inter coach ends having body mounted Swift Sixteen chopper couplings. The outer ends have bogie mounted acucraft choppers.
I don’t have any R1s (and I appreciate the post was about R1s!) but they will round fairly tight curves. I also use safety chains on the inner ends.

Sorry about Total thread drift!
 
Gizzy

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Good for bashing. I made a Driving trailer from mine, although I've since dismantled this coach to use as a chassis under a LGB coach body.

As mentioned, metal wheels help with the running. I tend to use the Bachman ones....

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John S

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Good for bashing. I made a Driving trailer from mine, although I've since dismantled this coach to use as a chassis under a LGB coach body. As mentioned, metal wheels help with the running. I tend to use the Bachman ones....
Super bash there Gizzy, any further details on the construction? and info on the door would be welcome.

Edit: Not to worry, found the original article to read through here: Bish-Bash-Bosh! A Coach Chop.... - G Scale Central

John
 
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Leslie

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Hi Leslie,

We recently purchased two Newqida green coaches. At the moment, we're still playing with trains in the lounge for Christmas. To answer your question, I made a short video with two of the coaches on our current setup:

http://instagr.am/p/BrdeKkLBWCk/
You can see the coaches take the LGB R1 curves fine. I haven't found there to be any trouble with the plastic wheels but our wooden lounge floor is pretty flat do it's not really challenge for them. That said, I can see them wobble when they go over the corners of the carpet so I will probably take the usual advice of fitting them with metal wheels when I get chance




Thanks, Malcom - this helps me too!

I'll second Melcom on this too, "For what they cost, great value!"
Thanks - a great help.
Regards,
Les

Thanks to all who replied to my query - I'll buy some, but I see steel wheels, new couplings and lead sheet on the horizon.
Les
 
Zerogee

Zerogee

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#17
Thanks - a great help.
Regards,
Les

Thanks to all who replied to my query - I'll buy some, but I see steel wheels, new couplings and lead sheet on the horizon.
Les
I don't think you will regret it - even with the cost of the additions, they are still pretty good value for what you get. Do shop around online for the coaches themselves, prices vary considerably.
For the aftermarket wheels, the Bachmann/Liliput ones (same product in different packaging) are much cheaper than LGB or most other brands, and are perfectly adequate for this purpose.

Jon.
 
Ozymandius

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#18
I have two Newquida coaches, which I fitted with Bachmann metal wheels and LGB coupler springs straight away. After two years of use, the truss rods underneath are partially broken (clumsy operating by yours truly) They are both currently in the works to have the truss rods fixed, oddly they won't glue with superglue or anything else I have, so they are now tapped and screwed to the underframe.

Following Jon Dunford's (Dunnyrail) post on fitting toilet compartments, I am currently fitting those (although mine are scratch built) before they get boxed up for the 2019 season.

I have also fitted door handles, which mine came without. At £35 ish a pop, you really can't go wrong.

best regards
Tony
 
PhilP

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Les,
Worth having a look for 'self-adhesive wheel weights' on the web..

You can get these in a grey finish, and are very easy to fit. - Experiment with the strips lose first, then secure, once you have worked our how much weight you need to add.
PhilP.