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dunnyrail

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Not easy to find photos or information about the loco - Wiki lists all the T&D locos except No 4 - bit of a who dunnit. I have never seen a photo of it operating on the line, wonder if it may have gone to another of the Irish narrow gauge lines - a 2-4-0 or 0-4-2 would probably not have had enough traction for the T&D :wondering::wondering::wondering:
It never moved to any other line being used exclusively on the line between Castlegregory and the Junction of the same name. The fearful gradients were between the Junction and Dingle but the line back to Tralee was pretty flat so it may have been used occasionally to there as well. It was fairly Camera shy which is hardly surprising as the great majority of pics of the line were taken by enthusiasts in the last years after the Castlegregory Branch was closed. This Loco No4 was withdrawn in 1902 being scrapped in 1907. Huntley 514 of 1890 so not a long lived machine, the pic is probably a Works Picture when Built.

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I have done some more research and it appears that the Castlegregory Branch closed 17/4/39 long after No. 4 was cut up so other Locomotives must have worked the Branch after her demise. There is a drawing of No.4 in the Plateway Press Book “The DINGLE Train” if you can get a look at it.
 
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Paul2727

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Not easy to find photos or information about the loco - Wiki lists all the T&D locos except No 4 - bit of a who dunnit. I have never seen a photo of it operating on the line, wonder if it may have gone to another of the Irish narrow gauge lines - a 2-4-0 or 0-4-2 would probably not have had enough traction for the T&D :wondering::wondering::wondering:
Hmmm.....
I might just have enough 'bits' to bodge something like that?? :think::think:

Where they ever 'fully enclosed', or would the boiler be visible, between the tanks?
I'd actually considered a double cabbed Irish tram loco before while playing around with a couple of old Otto cabs and a Playmobil chassis.
The research I did at the time said that double cabbed tram locos were quite plentiful in the Emerald Isle, including 5' gauge versions but as most of them rain firebox first, most lost their smoke box end cabs quite quickly. One at least also lost one of its side skirts as it ran on a line where road traffic was only ever on one side and the loco was never turned due to lack of a turntable. Rather pragmatically the skirts on the landward side were discarded along with the extra cab.
It seems that exposed motion didn't scare the horses after all.

I may revisit the 2 headed tram idea or maybe it would make a nice Colonel Stephens type rail bus, but one narrow gauge loco that holds a place in my heart is 'Fire Queen.' Built to 4@ gauge in 1848, she was once based at Dinorwig Quarry in Llanberis , she now resides at the more salubrious surroundings of Penrhyn Castle. So the Queen now has her castle.
A 3'ish version just might be nice to have. All I need is a long wheelbase chassis with large wheels. Oh yeah, that's why I was here in the first place wasn't it. Rubber ruler at the ready.
Regards,
Paul.
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Rhinochugger

Rhinochugger

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I'd actually considered a double cabbed Irish tram loco before while playing around with a couple of old Otto cabs and a Playmobil chassis.
The research I did at the time said that double cabbed tram locos were quite plentiful in the Emerald Isle, including 5' gauge versions but as most of them rain firebox first, most lost their smoke box end cabs quite quickly. One at least also lost one of its side skirts as it ran on a line where road traffic was only ever on one side and the loco was never turned due to lack of a turntable. Rather pragmatically the skirts on the landward side were discarded along with the extra cab.
It seems that exposed motion didn't scare the horses after all.

I may revisit the 2 headed tram idea or maybe it would make a nice Colonel Stephens type rail bus, but one narrow gauge loco that holds a place in my heart is 'Fire Queen.' Built to 4@ gauge in 1848, she was once based at Dinorwig Quarry in Llanberis , she now resides at the more salubrious surroundings of Penrhyn Castle. So the Queen now has her castle.
A 3'ish version just might be nice to have. All I need is a long wheelbase chassis with large wheels. Oh yeah, that's why I was here in the first place wasn't it. Rubber ruler at the ready.
Regards,
Paul.View attachment 254722
An oddity, in that it has a marine boiler - different to loco boilers somehow.
 
dunnyrail

dunnyrail

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St.Neots Cambridgeshire UK
An oddity, in that it has a marine boiler - different to loco boilers somehow.
Have edited my post 21 to give a clue where you can find a drawing of the TnD Push me Pull you Steam Tram.