Liliput Trams

V

van5

Talyllyn Railway. I of M, Old Land Rovers
24 Jan 2010
175
7
Great Barr, Birmingham
Greetings. Any opinions on these, I believe that there is a Bachman connection
 
stockers

stockers

Trains, aircraft, models, walking, beer, travel
Staff member
GSC Moderator
24 Oct 2009
25,547
267
62
Nr. Ashford, Kent. England.
Have you a link to said trams?
 
Chris Vernell

Chris Vernell

Lhude Sing Cuccu!
24 Oct 2009
5,219
644
73
Nepean, ON
Definitely look like Bachmann on the Bachmann Europe website ;)
In which case, they should be all right if you treat them gently and don't expect them to run all day and night.
 
Gizzy

Gizzy

A gentleman, a scholar, and a railway modeller....
26 Oct 2009
33,331
837
59
Cambridgeshire
www.gscalecentral.net
Same as the Bachmann ones.

I had one for a while which was a good runner, but I have heard the motors and gears aren't very good?

Depends on how you treat them I guess....
 
V

van5

Talyllyn Railway. I of M, Old Land Rovers
24 Jan 2010
175
7
Great Barr, Birmingham
;) Perhaps I should save my cash and buy second hand LGB, I only run analogue.

Thank you for your help
 
  • Like
Reactions: dunnyrail
stevelewis

stevelewis

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,480
0
Buckley NR MOLD NORTH WALES
Only just seen this thread, but as Liliput is a bachmann Company now, has been for a few years actually, it is confirmed that the Liliput G scale trams are virtually the same as bachmann labelled ones, I am informed that they were supoosed to have upgraded the drive mechanism, but from what i have heard, they are still quite poor perormers unless treated very gently and not run for too long without a break!

I had a Bachmann Tram once it very soon got converted to a trailer!
 
dutchelm

dutchelm

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,667
24
N Somerset
Some of the older ones failed out of the box without being run, it seemed to be an age thing. The problem was the plastic gear wheel had an undersize centre hole. After a time the gear wheel split even if it had never run.
All the ones I run at exhibitions have been remotored with USA trains mechanisms.
 
stevelewis

stevelewis

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,480
0
Buckley NR MOLD NORTH WALES
008.JPG 006.JPG Careful perusal of these photos, reveals my only Bachmann Tram which had already been de-motered and converted into a trailer!

Vintage photos!! The LGB Tram & Trailer had only just been released then in '96 and was brand new, happily running round the rockery AND powered from the overhead.
 
G-force1

G-force1

Prevarication Rules!
4 Aug 2015
3,145
4
North Middle Earth
Certainly seem a lot cheaper than the LGB trams. Perhaps built to a price, hence the supposedly poor reliability reputation?
 
Miamigo259

Miamigo259

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,096
0
I noticed on an N scale Forum this morning that Bachmann have upgraded their (fairly awful representation) of an N scale PCC car with a new motor and brass gears and their Brill bogie car is going to be upgraded in the near future as well. These have the same gear problem as the large scale ones (I know, as I have some of the N Brill cars), so perhaps they might actually do something about the G scale ones as well?

One can only hope..............
 
stevelewis

stevelewis

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,480
0
Buckley NR MOLD NORTH WALES
Problem is it costs to upgrade..........and the sales volume is just not there.... so to upgrade would probably be just a waste of investment.
 
Madman

Madman

Registered
25 Oct 2009
13,603
525
Pennsylvania, USA
I've said this before, Bachmann has the artistry but lacks the engineering.
 
stevelewis

stevelewis

Registered
24 Oct 2009
2,480
0
Buckley NR MOLD NORTH WALES
I've said this before, Bachmann has the artistry but lacks the engineering.
Not really, some of their productions work superbly but as with most things you dont get Rolls Royce quality for the price of a Mini!

'I have several Bachmann 0n30 locos expensive but superb performers, I have owned several of Bachmann's large scale locos from the Shay to the K27 never had any problems with them.
In UK money a bachman/Liliput Trams costs around £100. an LGB tram around 3 times that price so how can the cheap one be expected to give comparable performance
 
Madman

Madman

Registered
25 Oct 2009
13,603
525
Pennsylvania, USA
Not really, some of their productions work superbly but as with most things you dont get Rolls Royce quality for the price of a Mini!

'I have several Bachmann 0n30 locos expensive but superb performers, I have owned several of Bachmann's large scale locos from the Shay to the K27 never had any problems with them.
In UK money a bachman/Liliput Trams costs around £100. an LGB tram around 3 times that price so how can the cheap one be expected to give comparable performance

Steve, you are absolutely correct. I should have qualified that statement before I put my two cents in. I have two Bachmann Davenports. I love them. Even more than the LGB 2090 diesels of which I have three. The Davenports pull well, run at very slow speeds superbly and look great.
 
A

Andrew B. Middleton

Registered
22 Jun 2016
164
0
67
Beechworth VIC 3747
I like the sound of that Bachmann vs.LGB price difference! Might actually change me from 1:33.8 / 9 mm scale to 1:22.5 scale.
 
dunnyrail

dunnyrail

DOGS, Garden Railways, Steam Trains, Jive Dancing,
25 Oct 2009
17,234
1,799
72
St.Neots Cambridgeshire UK
I would look to get a second hand LGB one, if you pick up a second hand Bachman one they do indeed make great trailer cars. I recently spoke to Glendale about moving on some of my surplus LGB ones and he reckoned that they make little money these days so decided not to get rid of them at the time.

Here are a couple of my old Bachman Cars modified as Trailers, seen on these pages before but probably worth another airing. The Cross Bench has just had all the motor and gearing taken out, the closed one has been mounted on an LGB Shorty Caboose Chassis that I got very cheep from Kent Garden Railways some years back. Both have been painted up Blue for the LLB a line that used to connect with Andy Rush's Ruschbahn. We used the Salloon in colder weather, the cross bench being put into service on Hot Days. Nice to use real reasons to swop stock about.
image.jpg

image.jpg
JonD
 
  • Like
Reactions: trammayo
trammayo

trammayo

Interested in vintage commercial vehicle, trams, t
24 Oct 2009
20,889
1,159
71
Co. Mayo
My crossbench converted to trailer...
DSCF3047.JPG

And a Lilliput car which now has the truck from the crossbench!
Testing Trains (177).JPG
 
  • Like
Reactions: dunnyrail
dunnyrail

dunnyrail

DOGS, Garden Railways, Steam Trains, Jive Dancing,
25 Oct 2009
17,234
1,799
72
St.Neots Cambridgeshire UK
  • Like
Reactions: trammayo