LGB 26270 /26271 Zahnraddampflok HG 4/4 Ep. II

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Saw that in Grootspoor's latest newsletter this morning; yes, LGB certainly seem to be doing a number of these ultra-expensive limited edition items, guess they must feel there is a market out there for them.....
Thankfully for my finances, it's not one that I'd be getting even if it was more reasonably priced, but it looks nice for those that are into that sort of thing.

Jon.
 
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Google translation of the description. These are limited editions as Jon says, 399 worldwide for both models.
"Model of the gear steam locomotive HG 4/4 No. 704 of the DFB (Steam Railway Furka-Bergstrecke). [Fine]-detailed model in heavy metal construction with many attached details. Drive with a high-performance engine, all traction wheelsets driven by coupling rods. Gear for operation on LGB racks 10210 also powered. The gear drive now runs with when the locomotive runs on a rack and pinion track. Doors to the cab and smoke chamber door to open. True to original livery and lettering of the era VI, as the locomotive is in use today. Equipped with a mfx / DCC decoder with many light and sound functions such as headlight, cab lighting, driving sound, reed switch triggerable whistle and much more. Driving sound also functional in analogue mode. Built-in smoke generator with [synchronised] steam ejection as well as cylinder steam, steam at the exhaust of the vacuum brake and steam ejection of the whistle when it is operated. Length over buffer 40 cm."
 
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All rather bizarre. Kiss announced the same models with the same running numbers a couple of years ago and they are still shown on the Kiss website as due in 2020 priced at Euros 3290.

The HG 4/4 is a cousin of the recently released Kiss HG 3/4 which also currently runs on the DFB.

As I understand it the HG 3/4 originally worked on the FO before the line was electrified and were then sold to the French government and shipped to Vietnam. The HG 4/4 were ordered by the French government direct from SLM and shipped to Vietnam to join the HG 3/4.

Fast forward many years to when the locos were repatriated to Switzerland the preservation group purchased representatives of both types of loco and have been gradually restoring them for use on the DFB.

Somehow I can't see Kiss and LGB releasing duplicate models built to the same high standard. One in plastic and one in metal is plausible but two in metal in my mind just does not work.

As mentioned in an earlier posting I've got one of the Kiss HG 3/4 having seen the loco in Vietnam and later having ridden behind the same loco on the DFB:

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It is a fantastic model but, at its price, I would expect it to be. Based upon the low number assigned to my model, if they are being released in numerical order, my feeling is that the HG 3/4 has not been a fast seller. My feeling is that this could have led to Kiss talk to LGB to share or take over the production of the HG 4/4.....

It will be interesting to see how things develop!!
 
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All rather bizarre. Kiss announced the same models with the same running numbers a couple of years ago and they are still shown on the Kiss website as due in 2020 priced at Euros 3290.

The HG 4/4 is a cousin of the recently released Kiss HG 3/4 which also currently runs on the DFB.

As I understand it the HG 3/4 originally worked on the FO before the line was electrified and were then sold to the French government and shipped to Vietnam. The HG 4/4 were ordered by the French government direct from SLM and shipped to Vietnam to join the HG 3/4.

Fast forward many years to when the locos were repatriated to Switzerland the preservation group purchased representatives of both types of loco and have been gradually restoring them for use on the DFB.

Somehow I can't see Kiss and LGB releasing duplicate models built to the same high standard. One in plastic and one in metal is plausible but two in metal in my mind just does not work.

As mentioned in an earlier posting I've got one of the Kiss HG 3/4 having seen the loco in Vietnam and later having ridden behind the same loco on the DFB:

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It is a fantastic model but, at its price, I would expect it to be. Based upon the low number assigned to my model, if they are being released in numerical order, my feeling is that the HG 3/4 has not been a fast seller. My feeling is that this could have led to Kiss talk to LGB to share or take over the production of the HG 4/4.....

It will be interesting to see how things develop!!
You need a black one now Keith ;), that’s dead gorgeous!
 
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I agree, however I have just ordered this:
So who made the original?
AND,
Is it called a 'original manufacturer's name'? - Like a Mallet, or a Meyer.
 
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You need a black one now Keith ;), that’s dead gorgeous!
Paul,

No, no, no, I don't need a black one!!! ....... unless, of course, they make a model my one as it was when they were operating in Vietnam :nod:

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I missed the inaccurate blue DFB 1 LGB released a couple years ago. The blue Kiss model is gorgeous; thank you for the photo.
 
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All rather bizarre. Kiss announced the same models with the same running numbers a couple of years ago and they are still shown on the Kiss website as due in 2020 priced at Euros 3290.

The HG 4/4 is a cousin of the recently released Kiss HG 3/4 which also currently runs on the DFB.

As I understand it the HG 3/4 originally worked on the FO before the line was electrified and were then sold to the French government and shipped to Vietnam. The HG 4/4 were ordered by the French government direct from SLM and shipped to Vietnam to join the HG 3/4.

Fast forward many years to when the locos were repatriated to Switzerland the preservation group purchased representatives of both types of loco and have been gradually restoring them for use on the DFB.

Somehow I can't see Kiss and LGB releasing duplicate models built to the same high standard. One in plastic and one in metal is plausible but two in metal in my mind just does not work.

As mentioned in an earlier posting I've got one of the Kiss HG 3/4 having seen the loco in Vietnam and later having ridden behind the same loco on the DFB:

View attachment 253217

It is a fantastic model but, at its price, I would expect it to be. Based upon the low number assigned to my model, if they are being released in numerical order, my feeling is that the HG 3/4 has not been a fast seller. My feeling is that this could have led to Kiss talk to LGB to share or take over the production of the HG 4/4.....

It will be interesting to see how things develop!!
Keith, are they still making the blue loco? Where did you buy it?
 
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Keith, are they still making the blue loco? Where did you buy it?
Dennis,

modellbahn-seyfried has the full kiss range, haven't used them for kiss stuff, but can give recommendation had a few bits of LGB from them. Sells on eBay and has a web shop in English.

They did have a blue one the other week in stock, was in discussion but just cant do it, too much money for one loco for my sanity
 
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Dennis,

modellbahn-seyfried has the full kiss range, haven't used them for kiss stuff, but can give recommendation had a few bits of LGB from them. Sells on eBay and has a web shop in English.

They did have a blue one the other week in stock, was in discussion but just cant do it, too much money for one loco for my sanity
I think my discussion will end the same way XD

It says “Sound”. Is the control DCC?

Thank you!
 
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I think my discussion will end the same way XD

It says “Sound”. Is the control DCC?

Thank you!
Yes its full DCC by ESU I believe.

I would love one, it’s the blue that does it for me no other reason but the cost of that one loco just about covers the cost of everything else I want this year which is a good few items from the already expensive LGB band wagon.
 
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Yes. This is already the year of the overspend...

I love the cobalt blue. The new Hg 4/4 has a crazy amount of exposed mechanism and wins on that competition though :)
 
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Keith, are they still making the blue loco? Where did you buy it?

Dennis,

My loco came from my local hobby shop in the UK who ordered and imported it from Kiss in Germany.

I've dipped into my pension fund to pay for mine but, as I mentioned in some previous postings, this model is something special for me as I saw the original loco in Vietnam in 1968/9 and then again I saw and rode behind the same repatriated loco when I visited the DFB.
 
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Well done, Keith: memorable and beautiful all in one!
 
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I love them both.
Always love blue trains.
Ialso prefer its more conventional wheel arrangement and angled steam chest.
Its simply beautiful, to my eye.
And rack.

The 4/4......so unusual....i think it would grow on me.
Price, yes more than a toy, but feature laden.

If i had an extensive rack layout, it would be a must have.
More “practical “ than the recent snow plow in terms of routine running.