I know that you have had experience with Casting Resin, have you tried this as a master. Extremely easy to use with just hand mixing to create a Master Mould. A friend gave me some as an Xmas pressy and I have been well pleased with it.Just remembered that the source for the resin figures was Motley Miniatures - specials - Motley Miniatures
I've been wondering if I could make a plaster cast of a load of sheep heads and backs using plasticine as a mould. Has anyone any experience or tips for using plaster and plasticine?
Thanks. That does look like a neat approach. I picked up some PlayDoh in my local cheapo shop and will give it a try as I only need to mould each one once. However, if I get around to making a rake of W&LLR sheep wagons, I might give this a try....
Sorry to be so well negative Rik, you always get it right but perhaps not this time. Think some time in £1 shops looking for cheep sheep may be a better use of time? Oh ‘cheep sheep’ almost poetic.Had a first attempt at creating a plaster cast sheep load. I suppose it might look OK from several metres with eyes half closed. I might try another one with the sheep bunched more closely together - ie mostly backs and heads with minimal gaps between the sheep. This is actually quite tricky as when a new sheep is pressed into the moulding medium (ie PlayDoh), it squashes the impressions which have been made previously and they become mishapen and I end up with humpty backed sheep. However, for a first effort .......
The casting - don't look too closely at their faces - a bit scary!
The load inserted. I suppose it looks a bit better inside the wagon
The footprint of the Tralee wagon is a bit larger but not by much - but as you say it is taller. When I bought it, the chap on the stall at Llanfair said it was 10mm scale - but I don't think so. A 10mm scale wagon would be massive. I've not got any drawings of T&D cattle wagons so can't check the dimensionsThe wagons look really good Rik, is the Tralee wagon very tall or just large compared to the generic sheep wagon?
Dividers sound like a good idea if all else fails. Yes, I thought I'd have another go but bunching them as tightly together as I can, as you say so the amount of visible floor space is minimal. As I mentioned, this is quite tricky as the PlayDoh distorts when a new sheep is squidged into it.Regarding the sheep, what about dividers? That way you could continue using your current amount of sheep but just over a smaller area of the wagon. If you were to recast the sheep block, have less space between each animal and less black on show?
Hi JonSorry to be so well negative Rik, you always get it right but perhaps not this time. Think some time in £1 shops looking for cheep sheep may be a better use of time? Oh ‘cheep sheep’ almost poetic.
Why not just cast each "sheep-back" individually (though maybe six or eight at a time)? No risk of distortion to the mould from a second impression (because there wouldn't be one), and then arrange as many "sheep-backs" as you can on a raised flat platform to fit inside the wagon.As I mentioned, this is quite tricky as the PlayDoh distorts when a new sheep is squidged into it
Good idea. Gregh has also suggested this. I might give it a try.Why not just cast each "sheep-back" individually (though maybe six or eight at a time)? No risk of distortion to the mould from a second impression (because there wouldn't be one), and then arrange as many "sheep-backs" as you can on a raised flat platform to fit inside the wagon.
Look for my PM Rik.Hi Jon
I agree, it's not one of my most successful experiments - but I'm always willing to give these things a try. I do keep an eye open for cheap sheep in bargain shops. I've noticed in the farm packs that generally there is one sheep plus at load of other stuff like chickens, pigs, cows and horses all in the wrong scale, so I'd end up with livestock I couldn't really use. A pity they don't market flocks of sheep and herds of cows in the cheap packs.
I have got a mate experimenting with 3D printing the backs of the six sheep bunched together. They cover about 1/3 of the area of the wagon. I've sent him a series of photos of the bunched sheep taken from various heights and angles and he's used a fancy bit of software to stitch them together into a 3D image. He reckons it will take about 8 hours to print one bunch - so 24 hours for one wagon load!
PS - I spent yesterday attempting to create a horse harness for the coal cart I made a while ago. So, I've had to research horse harnesses. This hobby is certainly varied and interesting........