If you don’t like AI switch off now!

[Paul M]

Ye

Its not only AI that uses data centres, so do telcos, the internet etc maybe we should turn off all our tech and go back to carrier pigeons. That would create jobs cleaning up the poop.

Yes, but pigeon poop is actually good for the environment as fertiliser. A redundant computer is about as good for the environment as a nuclear bomb

 

[Rhinochugger]

Ye
Yes, but pigeon poop is actually good for the environment as fertiliser.

In small doses - it's very rich in one chemical and can be too rich.

However, it's a bit like AI - you can't put the genie back in the bottle

 

[playmofire]

God help us, as soon as AI realises there is something 'not quite right' with humanity.....

Let's face it...
'We' have pretty much b*gg*er*d up the Mother-Ship Earth..

PhilP.

So why b*gg*r it up more?

I've amended this as I had used the word in full, but realise that this may cause offence. Few people know that the meaning of "b*gg*r" as used here means to be awkward or disruptive and date back to an early Church synod which tried to mediate on the differences between the Eastern, Orthodox churches and the Western, Roman churches. Agreement on an understanding seemed to be in reach but the Bulgarian church objected at the last minute and the whole thing came to nothing. From this "to bulgar" came to mean to be awkward or to cause something to fail and, like a number of words, the letter "l" eventually dropped out of being pronounced and the spelling also changed. The word has nothing to do with public school practices, alleged or otherwise.

 

[playmofire]

Errrrrrr....

So do an increasingly large proportion of the human beings!


PhilP.

Yes, but I think that when people read something written by a human being they may have a more questioning attitude to what they are reading. At one time, the old adage was "if it's in the papers, it must be true"; now it's ''if it's on the internet it must be true" but it often isn't.

 

[GAP]

Yes, but I think that when people read something written by a human being they may have a more questioning attitude to what they are reading. At one time, the old adage was "if it's in the papers, it must be true"; now it's ''if it's on the internet it must be true" but it often isn't.

If it written by a human then its truthfulness is always an open question. AI just regurgitates human inputs so the truthfulness question also applies.
End of the day AI built by humans so fallible, genuinely produced by a human also fallible. Apply your beliefs ad thats it.

 

[GAP]

Ye
Yes, but pigeon poop is actually good for the environment as fertiliser. A redundant computer is about as good for the environment as a nuclear bomb

In concentrations it is not; all bird poop is toxic to plants unless it is diluted or spread over a large area it will burn roots at concentration.

 

[Paul M]

In concentrations it is not; all bird poop is toxic to plants unless it is diluted or spread over a large area it will burn roots at concentration.

But at least it's organic and will disappear before to long. What will our future population think in a few hundred years when they start digging up plastic boxes?

 

[Rhinochugger]

Yes, but I think that when people read something written by a human being they may have a more questioning attitude to what they are reading. At one time, the old adage was "if it's in the papers, it must be true"; now it's ''if it's on the internet it must be true" but it often isn't.

Hmmm, I was always told never to believe what you read in the papers

On the question of human input, when working for a local authority, we received a circular email from the Exec Director's PA about standards of grammar and punctuation in our written communications with residents and the public.

The email contained a redundant apostrophe, which I pointed out in a reply to the PA .......................... I never received an answer

 

[playmofire]

If it written by a human then its truthfulness is always an open question. AI just regurgitates human inputs so the truthfulness question also applies.
End of the day AI built by humans so fallible, genuinely produced by a human also fallible. Apply your beliefs ad thats it.

But, unfortunately, lots of people don't do that.

 

[Paul M]

On the question of huma input

Whoops!
Will I get a reply?

 

[ge_rik]

This is what ChatGPT knows about Peckforton Light Railway.....

The Peckforton Light Railway (PLR) is not a full-size railway but a highly detailed and well-known 16mm scale garden railway created by railway modeller Geoffrey ("Ge Rik") Bunza in Cheshire. It represents an imaginary 3-foot gauge light railway running through the countryside around the real villages of Peckforton, Beeston, Bulkeley and Bickerton.

Now I know who to blame if things go wrong

"Geoffrey! Don't do that!" (Adapted from Joyce Grenfell)

Rik

 

[PhilP]

Wrong, but definitively wrong...


PhilP.

 

[Rhinochugger]

This is what ChatGPT knows about Peckforton Light Railway.....



Now I know who to blame if things go wrong

"Geoffrey! Don't do that!" (Adapted from Joyce Grenfell)

Rik

Welcome to the forum Geoffrey Bunza

 

[Gerard]

So why b*gg*r it up more?

I've amended this as I had used the word in full, but realise that this may cause offence. Few people know that the meaning of "b*gg*r" as used here means to be awkward or disruptive and date back to an early Church synod which tried to mediate on the differences between the Eastern, Orthodox churches and the Western, Roman churches. Agreement on an understanding seemed to be in reach but the Bulgarian church objected at the last minute and the whole thing came to nothing. From this "to bulgar" came to mean to be awkward or to cause something to fail and, like a number of words, the letter "l" eventually dropped out of being pronounced and the spelling also changed. The word has nothing to do with public school practices, alleged or otherwise.

There is a lot of b*gg*r in the world indeed! The Dutch made a good living out of it, including myself as a lifetime "Research Engineer". In English it is called "Dredging" and in Dutch its called "Baggeren" , meaning that one lifts (=Dredges) the "Bagger" from the bottom of the canals and harbours into special barges and dumps the load at sea. In Dutch "Bagger" means worthless material, often showed or sold as the output of some action or discussion that did not produce any usefull results but a lot of "sh*t".