Deltang TX22

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Hi you garden railway fans, I need help, as I am not good at electrical things. I just got a Deltang TX22 transmitter & I did not know that I had to put it all together. Well I followed the drawings to my best abilities but I am stuck as to where the wires go to from pin 2 Throttle knob. pin 3 Direction switch &5 Bind button, also where the wires go on to the Tx2 module. Please help as I don’t have a clue what I am doing.
 
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Hi you garden railway fans, I need help, as I am not good at electrical things. I just got a Deltang TX22 transmitter & I did not know that I had to put it all together. Well I followed the drawings to my best abilities but I am stuck as to where the wires go to from pin 2 Throttle knob. pin 3 Direction switch &5 Bind button, also where the wires go on to the Tx2 module. Please help as I don’t have a clue what I am doing.
Look at ge_riks blog. Linked below. He is the ace on telling how to use Deltang kit.

 
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Thanks for your reply , it has helped so far but I just can not get the TX to work , I think I have a live wire missing from DSM air, can you see from the photo
 

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You appear to have three wires missing:
Battery +ve.
Battery -ve.
These may be from plug-on connector, so just removed for clarity?

And a wire from the common connection of the cluster of resistors, which should connect to the pin just to the left of your black wire. - In John's collection of pictures, this is the unmarked wire coming 'south' from the transmitter.

NOTE:
That black wire feeds the LED in the switch.
 
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Hi, I have just figured out from the drawings where 2 wires go to , it show negative to Tx2. 3.1v+ to Tx2, done that, But one wire shows it goes to Tx2 9v+, where on the Tx2 is that ?

You see the RC Helicopter world that I come from, if I want a Transmitter, Receiver or model I just go out & buy it, not have to build the bloody thing. Yes I have to bind & set it up with a few things like throttle, pitch, swash plate, gyro & servo throws then I am in the air, RC garden trains are so complicated with building set & all that stuff. All I want is a train with smoke, lights & sound, hopefully to run around the garden that’s all, none of the complicated work that goes with it. It is no surprise that so few take up this hobby it seems that only the knowledgeable enthusiasts with skills & know how to do it are into railways. I am just a simple man that would like a train running around my garden, I get lost with all the things you lot talk about, could you explain things in laymen’s terms not codes or technical terms so I have some sort of chance of getting things done, photos would be good. Yes I am thick when it comes to all this but please remember I am just getting into this hobby. I get so frustrated with all this as I cannot do or understand what you are talking about. Also, why are G scale wagons & locos so expensive compared to 00 scale. Thanks. But I will say it has been very helpful with all the help I have been getting, so Thanks for that. ChopperCook.
 
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No offense, but if you wanted simple, why not stick to track power? No mods to the loco, and you can buy ones with DCC fitted already. Piko and LGB sell DCC locos off the shelf that will also run on DC and they have smoke and sound and remote control.

Not trying to inflame a war, but, based on what you say above, why would you embark on battery power, since it is more complex, not to mention battery charging. It's not rocket science to put power to rails.

Greg
 
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I do not want track power with all the cleaning & maintenance, I have a Piko Newqida RC SCALE Harz 2-6-2 steam But it does not respond to the transmitter well so I am fitting a Deltang RX & TX with a mylocosound card. I am familiar with batteries as I have 2 RC helicopters which are battery operated & several fixedwings
 
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Hi, I have just figured out from the drawings where 2 wires go to , it show negative to Tx2. 3.1v+ to Tx2, done that, But one wire shows it goes to Tx2 9v+, where on the Tx2 is that ?

You see the RC Helicopter world that I come from, if I want a Transmitter, Receiver or model I just go out & buy it, not have to build the bloody thing. Yes I have to bind & set it up with a few things like throttle, pitch, swash plate, gyro & servo throws then I am in the air, RC garden trains are so complicated with building set & all that stuff. All I want is a train with smoke, lights & sound, hopefully to run around the garden that’s all, none of the complicated work that goes with it. It is no surprise that so few take up this hobby it seems that only the knowledgeable enthusiasts with skills & know how to do it are into railways. I am just a simple man that would like a train running around my garden, I get lost with all the things you lot talk about, could you explain things in laymen’s terms not codes or technical terms so I have some sort of chance of getting things done, photos would be good. Yes I am thick when it comes to all this but please remember I am just getting into this hobby. I get so frustrated with all this as I cannot do or understand what you are talking about. Also, why are G scale wagons & locos so expensive compared to 00 scale. Thanks. But I will say it has been very helpful with all the help I have been getting, so Thanks for that. ChopperCook.
I confess that I hadn't realised that the Deltang gear came in kit form as a default - at the very least, I had assumed that the customer had a choice to buy it as a kit or ready assembled. Frankly, I wouldn't have a clue where to start with putting one together either....

I can understand your frustration, Chopper, and I think there are a lot of different reasons for things being as they are in the UK garden railway hobby. First, the market for G scale over here is TINY compared with the equivalent market in (say) Germany, where G scale originated with LGB 50 years ago - and Battery RC is only a small subset of that tiny market, with very little standardisation and a number of people each doing and building their own thing. The "ready built" market for Battery RC trains over here is divided into two extremes - the toy end of the market (Playmobil, and Chinese imports like Newqida) and the high-end from the likes of Roundhouse, where a ready-to-run all-metal battery RC diesel shunter will set you back 500 squid plus - and is aimed at the live-steam boys to give them something to run when they don't have time to steam-up a "proper" engine. If we want to do anything between these two, we're all pretty much on our own, doing conversions on commercial plastic locos (LGB, Piko etc) that are designed to run on track power.

I can appreciate your reasons for not wanting track power, though in my experience it's not anything like as much hassle as some people like to make out; when I decided that I wanted to have a couple of battery locos that I could run anywhere (such as when visiting lines that run mostly live steam, therefore don't have track power available) I took the route of converting a couple of LGB locos that already had full DCC driving and sound systems, and equipped them with Lith-Ion batteries and commercial wireless-DCC receivers. The conversions were simple do do (nothing to actually "build", just modules to install and wire up) and have so far been very successful.

If folks on here seem to speak a lot of technicalities at times, it's probably because it's the quickest and easiest way to discuss things that most of the participants in the discussion understand - but if newcomers to the hobby ask questions, or ask for something to be explained in less technical terms, I think most on here are more than happy to help. I'm sure that it's actually much the same on most forums devoted to the RC flying hobbies, or indeed almost any other specialist interest group - to the newcomer it can seem very technical and jargon-filled, but clearer explanations should always be available when asked for, as everyone was new here once!

As to the cost issue of G scale compared with other scales/gauges, a lot of it is down to the size of the market and numbers produced - a G scale item is never going to sell anything LIKE as many as an OO scale one, so the production quantities (and consequent economies of numbers) are completely different. Then of course there is the sheer physical size - with G, you're getting a heck of a lot more loco or wagon for your money! Having said that, of course, if you look at the prices of modern HO models imported from Europe, they are scarily close to what you would pay for LGB or Piko G-scale.....

Jon.
 
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Thanks Jon for a nice reply to my last post, and thanks for your understanding of the difficulties I am having. Thanks again. ChopperCook.
 
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I confess that I hadn't realised that the Deltang gear came in kit form as a default -

Jon.
That's what our PhilP does - makes it nice and easy :nod::nod:

Buy 'em ready made from RC Trains >:)>:)>:)>:)>:)
 
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Right..
Nearly there:

The bottom row of seven pins (nearest to the PCB) are all connected together, and need connecting to your on/off switch / the wire running between the various controls. - Negative supply o the module.

The middle row of pins, are all connected together, and are the positive supply to the module. - Feed from the positive battery lead.

Of course you can buy these things pre-built.. ;)

RC Trains Tx20


OK. This is a RCT-Tx20, but you get the idea? :)
 
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Thanks That will help, I thought it was all made up, I got it from Micron Radio Control.
 
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Thanks That will help, I thought it was all made up, I got it from Micron Radio Control.
Both Micron, and I, sell the Deltang Tx22 'kits'. - Though I only get them to order.

I don't recommend them to a beginner, as there are a lot of assumptions made for a novice. - Using different coloured bits of wire, so you know 'what is going where' is a good idea. :nerd:;)

Don't forget to calibrate the transmitter, before you start trying to 'drive' your loco..

Well Done! You are nearly there. :)

PhilP.
 
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I am tempt to put this in the bin & try to get one that is all ready made
 
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You can stick it in the post, and I will see if I can sort it for you, if you like?

PhilP.
 
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Only just seen this thread. Well done, Phil. I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out - it's now a couple of years since I made a tx.

Rik
 
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Thanks. I have just unsoldered all the wires & will give it another go if not I will take you up on your offer
 
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it's now a couple of years since I made a tx.
It's like riding a bike, Rik!
A bit wobbly for the first five minutes.. Then you are off and running. ;) :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Philp, I have just followed the drawings to the letter with no success, so can I take up your offer &send it to you so I can have a working TX .Thank you.ChopperCook.