Crossing with a difference

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This is how a local Sugar Mill gets its cane trains across Queensland Railways main North-South line without all that mucking around with crossing trackage.

Starts at 8:31.

Of note is the end of the catch point moving rail.
 

Paul M

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So all this extra mucking around (complexity) was to not have a crossing in the main line? Must be, a lot of extra work and maintenance. What is the max speed on the main line?
Yes but so, so much more fun to do it like that
 

Rhinochugger

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Now build a model one >:)
 

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Interesting, but it seems to be awfully complex and I would have thought needs more maintenance than a conventional crossover.

The Welsh Highland Railway (1ft 11.5 in gauge) crosses Network Rail (standard Gauge) just outside of Portmadoc on a flat crossing....
 
Must be, a lot of extra work and maintenance.
Interesting, but it seems to be awfully complex and I would have thought needs more maintenance than a conventional crossover.
I think it has to be remembered that the narrow gauge operations are mainly seasonal so for a lot of the year the crossing sees minimal use. A conventional crossing would be used every time a main line train passed. As it is, the main line is not affected and plain line is *always* easier to maintain than a crossing of any kind. There is also the question of flangeways and the rail end hammering that occurs when a train passes over on either line, so leading to more wear and tear. The signalling arrangements would be pretty much the same either with the current arrangement or with a conventional crossing.
The Welsh Highland Railway (1ft 11.5 in gauge) crosses Network Rail (standard Gauge) just outside of Portmadoc on a flat crossing....
Indeed it does, about three miles from where I type this. Both routes have minimal traffic and the crossing is subject to speed restrictions on both routes due to the flangeway hammering described above and its location.
 

ntpntpntp

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Whenever I see cane railways it reminds me of my summer in Fiji in '74 as a 12yo lad. We made a few trips on the free passenger train, and I can remember climbing around on a plinthed steam loco.

I've always had it in mind to model a cane railway but never quite got round to it.
 

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The number of cars in that train seemed to be over 100, pretty impressive.

The cars are known as 'cane bins' and are usually 4 wheel and un-braked holding between 4 and 6 ton of cane each, there are some mills that use bogie mounted bins that hold around 10 ton each.
Most trains are speed limited to 40Km/Hr and are 2Ft gauge.
 

simon@mgr

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Two mills in the Ingham area, Victoria and Mackinade. The cane harvest will be starting soon, so lots of trains locally.
They send the sugar to the short Lucinda wharf, 6 kilometres long.
 

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Two mills in the Ingham area, Victoria and Mackinade. The cane harvest will be starting soon, so lots of trains locally.
They send the sugar to the short Lucinda wharf, 6 kilometres long.

Same here in Bundy except no wharf, the molasses gets sent to the rum distillery.
 

playmofire

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Whenever I see cane railways it reminds me of my summer in Fiji in '74 as a 12yo lad. We made a few trips on the free passenger train, and I can remember climbing around on a plinthed steam loco.

I've always had it in mind to model a cane railway but never quite got round to it.

Someone on here has such a layout.
 

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G Scale Trains, HO Trains, 1:1 Sugar Cane trains
Someone on here has such a layout.

I am incorporating the sugar cane industry into my new layout.
I have lived smack bang in sugar country for a large part of my life so have heaps of inspiration both current and old memories.