Cogges Railway 2 - Track Sketch

garrymartin said:
Gizzy said:
Get some cheap R1 curves and lay them on the ground to give you an idea of the space you need mate....
Click to expand...

Or better & cheaper , cut them out of cardboard !
Click to expand...

Now that's an indecently brilliant idea! :thumbup:
Alternatively you can borrow my Newqida plastic R1s for a play Ian.
 
CoggesRailway said:
Yes, i am pretty sure the playmobile ones wil work too?
Click to expand...

So long as they are 600mm radius, yes.
 
Here's a quick sketch (from AnyRail) of my first thought on a revised track layout & incline for Coggesrailway. Assumed dimensions are 15 metres long garden, clearance height of loco stock of 190mm (track + Stainz funnel!) and a deck of 25mm timber. On a 4% (1 in 25 grade) that means a 5375mm long grade. Could be shortened by going to 5% (1 in 20). Two bridges over the right hand end of Cogges Central, but - here's the good bit - no need to relay the complex pointwork in the station. This also makes the gradient easy to lay precisely as it can be hung off those nice solid fenceposts you have!

I think that this will fit into the garden Ian, but you'd need to verify the overall dimensions and check some assumptions. If you PM me with a real email ID, I'll send you the Anyrail file.

871e58233a784a1382d9b2bfae62af64.jpg
 
So I am really keen still on a loop so that a loop can be run by the boys without opening the garage section. I think I will go with the decking on the fence approach however. here is an any rail of the quarry line bottom loop and R5 main line.
bottomloop.jpg
 
CoggesRailway said:
So I am really keen still on a loop so that a loop can be run by the boys without opening the garage section. I think I will go with the decking on the fence approach however. here is an any rail of the quarry line bottom loop and R5 main line.
Click to expand...
Hmmm. Long, steep gradient ending in tight curve and 3 boys to use it by reaching over the other running lines. As any decent tailor used to say when you chose something garish: "Are you sure, sir?".

On a detail note, I'd lose the right hand crossover between the new line and existing outer loop. It takes up valuable real estate and means multiple tight reverse curves on the patio, which is probably less level than we both think!
 
All getting very technical. Please refer to my track laying specialists. Mr. B. Odgit & Mr. S. Carper. They can sort it for you with out all the technical "shenanigans".
 
Dave Hub said:
All getting very technical. Please refer to my track laying specialists. Mr. B. Odgit & Mr. S. Carper. They can sort it for you with out all the technical "shenanigans".
Click to expand...
Spot on Dave, just stick some track down and see how it looks and alter it if it dunt look right, all this pissing about with computer programs, the job would have been done be now.............:bigsmile:
 
Nemo said:
Dave Hub said:
All getting very technical. Please refer to my track laying specialists. Mr. B. Odgit & Mr. S. Carper. They can sort it for you with out all the technical "shenanigans".
Click to expand...
Spot on Dave, just stick some track down and see how it looks and alter it if it dunt look right, all this pissing about with computer programs, the job would have been done be now.............:bigsmile:
Click to expand...
Well that has very much been the approach thus far but I am actually trying to do the next phase carefully and well planned so as not to end up wanting to re do it all again! Also, I have had a similar view of these programs myself but when you start playing with them they are rather fun! It is also alot cheaper to play with virtual track rather than real track I can;t afford at the mo... in fact I am going to get the full edition and carefully survey the garden and produce an accurate as is plan as the next step of the project you luddites......:bigsmile:

Peter so you are dead set against my loop to loop idea? Maybe I need a relief line avoiding the garage named after the V Dub that so ably surveyed the route last weeK? I do want to fit in a continuous run when the garage is out of bounds.

I do love this anyrail business- much fun...
 
CoggesRailway said:
Peter so you are dead set against my loop to loop idea? Maybe I need a relief line avoiding the garage named after the V Dub that so ably surveyed the route last weeK? I do want to fit in a continuous run when the garage is out of bounds.

I do love this anyrail business- much fun...
Click to expand...

Not dead set against it. More just thinking about the realities of 3 lads and a steep gradient with tight curves at either end. Come to think of it, the realities of any number of GSCers and a steep gradient..... :bigsmile:

I like your throwaway thought of a third continuous loop outside the garage. Possibly at a lower level than the top end station. It could link into the existing inner loop either side of the French windows to minimise the land take outside them. Stepping over 3 tracks might be an issue. Especially after a curry....
 
whatlep said:
CoggesRailway said:
Peter so you are dead set against my loop to loop idea? Maybe I need a relief line avoiding the garage named after the V Dub that so ably surveyed the route last weeK? I do want to fit in a continuous run when the garage is out of bounds.

I do love this anyrail business- much fun...
Click to expand...

Not dead set against it. More just thinking about the realities of 3 lads and a steep gradient with tight curves at either end. Come to think of it, the realities of any number of GSCers and a steep gradient..... :bigsmile:

I like your throwaway thought of a third continuous loop outside the garage. Possibly at a lower level than the top end station. It could link into the existing inner loop either side of the French windows to minimise the land take outside them. Stepping over 3 tracks might be an issue. Especially after a curry....
Click to expand...
Mmmm well apart from the outbuildings and the patio and path the whole thing is up for grabs so its possible! I think the next stage is to get out with a tape measure and feed it all into Anyrail so there is a close to accurate plan of the current railway to work with... I must say I am a bit of a convert to this software!
 
CoggesRailway said:
Mmmm well apart from the outbuildings and the patio and path the whole thing is up for grabs so its possible! I think the next stage is to get out with a tape measure and feed it all into Anyrail so there is a close to accurate plan of the current railway to work with... I must say I am a bit of a convert to this software!
Click to expand...
Yep - if you haven't got money to throw around on new track and want to keep the family onside by only disrupting the garden once, software has much to recommend it.
 
Good going Ian - it that looks like a great way to start - I use computer track planning programs too - well worth it, visualise your ideas without spending money and making expensive mistakes, so thumbs up from me! :D
 
jameshilton said:
Good going Ian - it that looks like a great way to start - I use computer track planning programs too - well worth it, visualise your ideas without spending money and making expensive mistakes, so thumbs up from me! :D
Click to expand...
cheers james i agree. i was not sold on it but am now! it should also help to get through "planning" :bigsmile:
Its just nice to have decent map of the existent railway!
 
So in practice i don't think I can fit in a loop to loop quarry line. So I have decided I am going re organise the garden to lawn and put a station loop against the fence which allows for a quarry line to climb up the fence on a shelf if i choose in the future. There will be more stabling added in the workshop too. it's all on the plan. Sadly I found flex track in Anyrail harder than real life so its a bit messy. But its to scale and gives the picture. Thoughts chaps?

master2.jpg
 
The two crossovers between what I assume to be a double track main line are both in the same direction.
I wonder if reversing one would give greater operating flexibility.
dfee83fbcbb0456eb44346818d08cded.jpg
 
Ian - I'd just have a single crossover at the location shown in red on your later diagram, but in the opposite direction, which from memory is how your crossover is positioned now. The second (leftmost) crossover doesn't really add any operating value unless it was to be positioned right the other side of the station area behind one of the sheds. Unhappily then it would be difficult to access and change (and a magnet for DaveHub's coaches to derail on!).
 
Yes I just drew it wrong. It is the right way round on the first "as is" plan. Peter it is meant to be the same loop as I have now just pushed out to make space for the fence station?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom